Working out at home

[franco_22]

I found this Maximuscle 50kg Vinyl Weights Set with a 5ft ( I think) barbell and a pair of dumbells, not too fussed about dumbells as I already have some but it's only £39.99, seems like a good price no? From a very popular catalogue retailer.

With the 20Kgs I already own that should be enough to get me started on squats/deadlifts?

I'm just doing dumbells atm and I keep reading on bodybuilding forums that they don't do anything unless you squat /deadlift

 

[Volcs]

I found this Maximuscle 50kg Vinyl Weights Set with a 5ft ( I think) barbell and a pair of dumbells, not too fussed about dumbells as I already have some but it's only £39.99, seems like a good price no? From a very popular catalogue retailer.

With the 20Kgs I already own that should be enough to get me started on squats/deadlifts?

I'm just doing dumbells atm and I keep reading on bodybuilding forums that they don't do anything unless you squat /deadlift

See my post in other thread you're going to outgrow 70kg for deadlifts very quickly unless you're 12.

 

[jaybee]

LMAO - they only sell junk which any serious lifter will outgrow within a few months, waste of money, if your serious about weightlifting or bodybuilding, get a gym membership or buy the proper stuff from fitness superstore

Excuse my ignorance, but is a dumbbell not just a dumbbell? I can understand paying more for good bench but why would you "outgrow" weights? Yes you would lift heavier but that has nothing to do with not buying from said competitor?

 

[franco_22]

See my post in other thread you're going to outgrow 70kg for deadlifts very quickly unless you're 12.

Ah fair enough, what do you think is the recommended starter amount? Weights are expensive

Edit: Nvm, just read your post, you said about 120 Kgs to start

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Excuse my ignorance, but is a dumbbell not just a dumbbell? I can understand paying more for good bench but why would you "outgrow" weights? Yes you would lift heavier but that has nothing to do with not buying from said competitor?

basically standard weights are useless if your serious, if your a part timer looking to waste his time and money, then go ahead.

after 2 months of becoming serious about lifting (not missing a single workout) i was squatting 180kg, deadlifting 140kg, etc. this isnt normal, but i have always been naturally strong especially in my legs, but as you can see, i would have outgrown standard plates in a matter of weeks.

if all you want to do is arm curls then fine, go ahead get the catalogue stuff, but you would be better off just doing press ups and other bodyweight exercises.

ive spent over 4K easy on my home gym, and half the stuff was second hand. i also dont have a single cardio machine, its all weightlifting and a small amount of boxing gear. if i thought i could get away by spending a few quid down my local catalogue shop, then thats what i would have done, but it didnt.

today i lifted well over 1500kg today, not all in one go, but moving my weights back and forwards (i was spray painting the stuff i got second hand, they were in a state and i have been, refurbing them).

i have (using my memory here, never really wrote down)

6 x 25 kg plates
6 x 20 kg plates
4 x 15 kg plates
2 or 4 x 10 kg plates
4 x 5 kg plates
4 x 2.5kg plates
4 x 1.25 kg plates

all olympic, only 8 of the above plates were bought second hand.

2.5kg dumbells all the way up to 45kg dumbells in 2.5kg increments. all of this was bought second hand but the 12.5kg to 25kg dumbells are rubber hex and in brand new condition. i only had to paint the rest.

if your serious about lifting and or bodybuilding, you have to buy olympic gear.

if you want dumbells, you have to buy ironmasters, they are the only ones i can seriously recommend, bowflex are cheap and nasty (plastic components), catalogue equipment is just a waste of money.

im gonna try and find my thread i was making right now, these questions pop up far too often.

 

[jaybee]

basically standard weights are useless if your serious, if your a part timer looking to waste his time and money, then go ahead.

after 2 months of becoming serious about lifting (not missing a single workout) i was squatting 180kg, deadlifting 140kg, etc. this isnt normal, but i have always been naturally strong especially in my legs, but as you can see, i would have outgrown standard plates in a matter of weeks.

if all you want to do is arm curls then fine, go ahead get the catalogue stuff, but you would be better off just doing press ups and other bodyweight exercises.

ive spent over 4K easy on my home gym, and half the stuff was second hand. i also dont have a single cardio machine, its all weightlifting and a small amount of boxing gear. if i thought i could get away by spending a few quid down my local catalogue shop, then thats what i would have done, but it didnt.

today i lifted well over 1500kg today, not all in one go, but moving my weights back and forwards (i was spray painting the stuff i got second hand, they were in a state and i have been, refurbing them).

i have (using my memory here, never really wrote down)

6 x 25 kg plates
6 x 20 kg plates
4 x 15 kg plates
2 or 4 x 10 kg plates
4 x 5 kg plates
4 x 2.5kg plates
4 x 1.25 kg plates

all olympic, only 8 of the above plates were bought second hand.

2.5kg dumbells all the way up to 45kg dumbells in 2.5kg increments. all of this was bought second hand but the 12.5kg to 25kg dumbells are rubber hex and in brand new condition. i only had to paint the rest.

if your serious about lifting and or bodybuilding, you have to buy olympic gear.

if you want dumbells, you have to buy ironmasters, they are the only ones i can seriously recommend, bowflex are cheap and nasty (plastic components), catalogue equipment is just a waste of money.

im gonna try and find my thread i was making right now, these questions pop up far too often.

Why, why and why? You've not answered my question at all with respect.
What I mean is, why should you spend more on a type of dumbbell? Your general opinion seems to be that you will outgrow catalogue stuff, as in they only cater for an "up to" limit of weight right? What is this limit? are you suggesting you cannot buy cheap 5/10/20kg plates and/or dumbells? are you suggesting a cheaper 10kg dumbbell will fall apart? Does a 10kg cheap dumbbell not actually weigh 10kg or feel different to lift? I just don't get the whole "you can't buy cheap home gym stuff" argument. Weights are weights. Buy the correct weights surely?

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Why, why and why? You've not answered my question at all with respect.
What I mean is, why should you spend more on a type of dumbbell? Your general opinion seems to be that you will outgrow catalogue stuff, as in they only cater for an "up to" limit of weight right? What is this limit? are you suggesting you cannot buy cheap 5/10/20kg plates and/or dumbells? are you suggesting a cheaper 10kg dumbbell will fall apart? Does a 10kg cheap dumbbell not actually weigh 10kg or feel different to lift? I just don't get the whole "you can't buy cheap home gym stuff" argument. Weights are weights. Buy the correct weights surely?

the average person bench presses 30-40kg when they start benching i would guess.

that means 15-20kg dumbells.

now lets say they increase their bench press by 5kg every month. within 6 months, they are now benching 60-70kg, thats 30-35kg dumbells.

theres some guys if you look at the powerlifting total thread benching over 100kg, etc. olympic dumbells would be a much better route to go down if your serious about lifting and progressing, if your looking to mess about and not gain much muscle or strength, then by all means buy a 10kg dumbell.

if you look in the other thread, a guy just used 45kg dumbells for shoulder presses within a short space of time of his doctor saying he wouldnt be able to lift or something along those lines with that shoulder again, due to an injury or operation.

if you can find a cheap 45kg dumbells set that is safe to use, then show me?

the cheapest 45kg set i reckon would be

olympic dumbell handles - £60
16 x 5kg olympic plates - £120
very strong clamps - £20-40

above prices are brand new, take a third off for second hand.

you could buy a bowflex for similar amount of money, but they have plastic parts and have a tendency to fall apart and cant be dropped or abused like other dumbells.

you could just buy 2 x 45kg dumbells, but then what if you needed 30kg for another exercise?

like i said, if you buy catalogue equipment, you will soon outgrow it and be forced to buy the decent stuff anyway, anyone looking to mess about with a 10kg dumbell, not put on any muscle or strength then by any means buy from a catalogue retailer, if your serious about it, then join a gym, home gyms are very expensive when your wanting the right equipment.

 

[Morba]

Why, why and why? You've not answered my question at all with respect.
What I mean is, why should you spend more on a type of dumbbell? Your general opinion seems to be that you will outgrow catalogue stuff, as in they only cater for an "up to" limit of weight right? What is this limit? are you suggesting you cannot buy cheap 5/10/20kg plates and/or dumbells? are you suggesting a cheaper 10kg dumbbell will fall apart? Does a 10kg cheap dumbbell not actually weigh 10kg or feel different to lift? I just don't get the whole "you can't buy cheap home gym stuff" argument. Weights are weights. Buy the correct weights surely?

stuff like that is only meant for people that will lift say a 10kg DB. The plates are 1" only, they are small diameter and wont allow you to grow with.

I think a pressup is 70% of your bodyweight being pressed (cant remember what it is exactly but we will go with that). So, is 2x10kg DBs enough to press?
99% of people can pull more than they can press, so that makes little DBs also pointless for bigger workouts (they are essential in other areas, but for the heavy stuff, no).

Unfortunately weights are not just weights, not when you really look at them