no i just wonder why you would stay here considering how much you hate it
World War 2 Memorial destroyed
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no i just wonder why you would stay here considering how much you hate it
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Regardless, he was a good politician to achieve what he did. No doubt he was evil and commited many an atrocity, but the scale one which he worked at is quite amazing. He used a democracy to take power and exploited that power without any immediate backlash, he was nominated as Time's Man of the Year and nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. He can still be viewed as 'great'.
Not that I agree with that, but surely if genetically inferior people breed, then the human race gene pool will suffer? For example I have bad eyesight, so does my mother. If I have children it's likely they'll have poor eyesight too.
Bit harsh but true, if humans breed even though they're plauged with health problems, is this really ideal? Who's to say what the outcome of this will be in thousands of years?
No, not sarcastic at all!
I only said 10 year minimum to be slightly realistic. Personally I'd beat the cretins to within an inch of their life and then throw them into the deepest, darkest hole I could find and forget about them! But hey, the World ain't perfect is it?
Albert Einstein won both and he was a great man, jewish and did more for the world than hitler ever did.
I accept your opinion but just cant accept as Hitler being great.
Hitler was no more a good politician than I am, in fact he was a raving lunatic! The only thing Hitler was good at is public speaking, where he actually excelled. Hell, even his staff thought he was a complete moron, why do you think quite a few of his senior Generals, and I don't mean the warped sycophants in the 'inner circle', plotted to assassinate him?
This thread has got me into reading up on the Nuremberg Trials and where are they now (or rather where they were at death). 1 hour later and various link clicking I've managed to link to a Team Fortress 2 page.
Truly is a shame that this sort of thing is happening (referring to the original thread), but this is the world we live in and the people we live with. This is our generation and this is what is happening. Not just today, but tomorrow and so on. No doubt this is the sort of thing that will make it onto Youtube or one of those video sites which promote all things bad.
Lets hope some of that My Name is Earl Karma things kicks in for those bad people that do these things. The world would certainly be a better place for it.
Truly is a shame that this sort of thing is happening (referring to the original thread), but this is the world we live in and the people we live with. This is our generation and this is what is happening. Not just today, but tomorrow and so on. No doubt this is the sort of thing that will make it onto Youtube or one of those video sites which promote all things bad.
Lets hope some of that My Name is Earl Karma things kicks in for those bad people that do these things. The world would certainly be a better place for it.
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there is no denying that he brought a pitiful germany out of a depression caused as a result of WWI and the acts the followed as a direct result of the treaty of versailles, which forced Germany into a poverty not seen across the rest of the world (even in those times of economic depression) the self same treaty impossed by our ancestors.
it cannot therefore be denied that without the actions that immediatly followed WWI, and the almost entire elimination of the german economy, combined with the loss of the rhineland that hitler would never have come to power. which places the blame at our doorstep, fortunatly for the americans this is one thing the are not entirely to blame (the only one of the 3 to oppose such strict rulings against Germany (however the failure of the league of nations to abate hitler before it got out of hand was almost entirely down to their lack of involvement)).
hitler lead germany out of a poverty never the like witnessed in what could have been considered a 1st world country, where children could be seen playing with millions of marks as the actual value was next to non existant, where a weeks wages bought a loaf of bread.
his battle plans were great, and hugely effective, had it not been for his insanity i very much doubt the war could have been won.
i don't condone what he did, i think genocide is a terrible evil thing regardless of political ideology, but nevertheless, he was a prodigious leader, who instilled hope and dread into millions, nay billions of people. never since have we seen a leader so powerful by word alone that could command armies and rouse a people to such passion and pride.
Of coure he's a better politician than you are, he became a dictator of a country!
Maybe, but we'll never know will we as I don't feel like being a dictator just yet!
Hitler was a genius. There can be no disputing that. Just because what he did was wrong does not mean he was not a great man. Note that being great, being good at what you do, does not mean you are 'good'.
Luckily for us the power appeared to go to his head and he made some fatal errors!
As for the memorial.. it's terrible when something like that happens and I really don't understand how someone could be so cold. It must have been teens when you think about it, probably while drunk on cider. The chances of it being a neo-nazi group are kind of slim you must admit!
Luckily for us the power appeared to go to his head and he made some fatal errors!
As for the memorial.. it's terrible when something like that happens and I really don't understand how someone could be so cold. It must have been teens when you think about it, probably while drunk on cider. The chances of it being a neo-nazi group are kind of slim you must admit!
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Morality is like art - you have to draw the line somewhere.
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had it never been set in place, or been half as strict as it was i feel WWII could have been avoided. a desperate country will take desperate measures.
and in all honesty both are major causes, there arent really two schools of thought on this one.
the treaty of versailles crippled the german people, destroyed their pride, their honour, their livelyhood. Hitler promised to return that tenfold and the German people were desperate to believe him. had he been pulled up and punished when he started increasing the military in the mid 1930's perhaps the war could have been averted. if the rest of the world hadn't adopted a plan of appeasment on the policies hitler took directly before the war (such as the invasion of the sudatenland). and perhaps if the americans had been an active part in the league of nations negotiations may not have failed. (rather similar to what the 1st world is doing in the UN with regards to america and we are already seeing what they are considering appropriate behaviour)
it was a bit of both. but one could say had the treaty of versailles not been nearly as strict, left germany with the rhineland (the main centre of industrial work running along the banks of the rhine), or allowed to keep a small ammount of national pride in their armed forces, or maybe had they not been made to pay crippling reparations to france then maybe they never would have considered Hitler as a viable option for leader. the treaty of versailles was basically a chance for france to give germany a good kicking in, and unfortunatly germany didn't take it lying down.
i personally cannot believe neville chamberlain was foolish enough to go to Germany to talk with him, and think a signed agreement meant hitler would stop
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This is some classic OcUK threadage going on here, Chav + Keyboard Warrior + Vandalism + WWII + Nationalism = Win
I'm guessing the people who did this are ignorant and will have no understanding or attachment to WW2. It clearly means little or nothing to them and for this reason they have no respect for what the memorial stands for. To them it's just a statue of some bloke from years ago.
Both my Granddads were involved in the war, one as a Lancaster crewman and one was in the merchant Navy, they have both passed away now. For the new generation the links from direct family members to the war are becoming less and less. Lots of the teenagers today will never meet anyone who was involved in action durimng the War or even anyone who lived through it.
Of course it is important to show our respects and the action of the people responsible is disgusting, but it is certainly not surprising. Sad as it may seem, like any other war eventually WW2 will fade into History and be remembered as a historical event rather than something of emotional attachment.
I'm guessing the people who did this are ignorant and will have no understanding or attachment to WW2. It clearly means little or nothing to them and for this reason they have no respect for what the memorial stands for. To them it's just a statue of some bloke from years ago.
Both my Granddads were involved in the war, one as a Lancaster crewman and one was in the merchant Navy, they have both passed away now. For the new generation the links from direct family members to the war are becoming less and less. Lots of the teenagers today will never meet anyone who was involved in action durimng the War or even anyone who lived through it.
Of course it is important to show our respects and the action of the people responsible is disgusting, but it is certainly not surprising. Sad as it may seem, like any other war eventually WW2 will fade into History and be remembered as a historical event rather than something of emotional attachment.
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I can't force the wife to leave ...
The nearest place where you'll find them is around 20miles away.
And we only get the odd Russian person to come work the tractors and farms.
Got to take you up on that point - his Battle plans were NOT great, in fact most Battles where Her Adolf took the generals role, were disastrous, take the Battle of Britain as a prime example - had he not suddenly ordered the Luftwaffe who were on the brink of victory wiping out all of the RAF airfields to instead switch to bombing factories and towns, the result would have been very different. The invasion of Russia was poorly timed and done against the advice of his best generals, in almost every theatre of Battle, land / Sea / air hitler saw himself as grand strategist and made woeful decisions. A very skilled politician, but a buffoon when it came to military strategy.