Worse Premiership Managers

Worst.

On topic, David O'Leary and Peter Reid should be up there.

Was it Souness that signed the legend that is Ali Dia?
 
Gilly said:
Worst.

On topic, David O'Leary and Peter Reid should be up there.

Was it Souness that signed the legend that is Ali Dia?
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lol

did David bring in Tony Yeboah or Thomas Brolin

also the manager who got Faustino Asprilla - brilliant work
 
psd99 said:
Steve Wigley and Egil at Wimbledon

lol woaah these people are bad

If West Ham go down this season surely Avram Grant would be up there as the worse having already been relegated with Pompey!
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Its very unlikely that, say had Fergie, Wenger, Ancelotti gone to Pompie they would have stayed up, they just weren't good enough. LIkewise not many managers would get West Ham with almost the entire first team squad recovering from or currently having a long term injury.

If West Ham's squad is completely fit, well, look at Zola's first year, if the entire team keeps taking injuries and long term expensive players miss entire seasons, look at Zola's second season. I can't quite remember the timing now but I have a feeling Bellamy played a decent amount of games in the first half of the year under Zola, who is the kind of player who can drag other players into form with his sheer force of will.

Infact, Bellamy is exactly the player West Ham both need, and miss right now more than anyone. Parker is just about the same kind of player in terms of drive/effort/force of will/effect on the team, but he's not a goal maker/scorer.

Very hard to judge managers, someone might get relegated with one group of players, and get another completely different group of players into a European final. Likewise one manager can continue anothers success/improvement but be completely incapable of turning around a team in terrible form.

Fergie is by FAR the best manager the premiership has ever seen, length, continued success, ability to be so high up the table with Fletcher, Park, Carrick, Anderson, O'shea, Brown , Evans (and Rooney :p ). He both turned around the club and manages to get more out of the team than the sum of individual players should be able to.

Redknapp has probably caused more financial ruin than any other manager in England. Whose the worst, no idea, Grant took a not fantastic Chelsea side that were somewhat floundering to a Champs league final, something Mourinho failed to do, and almost won the title. His record in his home league is fantastic aswell.

Phil Brown, Tony Adams, who knows.

Megson's a bit hard to say, he bought in some players, Elmander and the korean dude who are now playing fantastic football, they didn't play good football under him, at all, but he was buying the players to start playing better football that is allowing the current Bolton to play so well.
 
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psd99 said:
lol

did David bring in Tony Yeboah or Thomas Brolin

also the manager who got Faustino Asprilla - brilliant work
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I'm lost. Yeboah and Asprilla were awesome, and massive fan favourites, but Brolin was fat and rubbish, so I can't make out what you were trying to say?

BTW Wilkinson signed both Leeds players named.
 
Brian Kidd must be in with a shout. Spent £20M at Blackburn (when £20M was a lot of money) and got them relegated in his first season, left them at the bottom of Division 1.
 
Roy Keane? Did a fabulous job with Sunderland in the Championship but was shocking as a Premiership manager.
 
Phoenix211 said:
Reid? Does two consecutive 7th place finishes in the EPL not count?
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A good manager may have held it together and had them qualify for Europe. He also wouldn't have taken a 7th placed team to the least goals in the league and 1 place above relegation.
 
Gilly said:
I'm lost. Yeboah and Asprilla were awesome, and massive fan favourites, but Brolin was fat and rubbish, so I can't make out what you were trying to say?

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Yep Tony Y was brilliant
I remember Daniel Amohkochi as well

Brolin - you're right he was rubbish but so much hype about him


Next question who signed Cantona at Leeds? Wilkinson again?

Here is a list....

10 Peter Reid – Leeds (March 2003 – November 2003) To be fair to Peter Reid, this was the easiest job in the world to be bad at. However, he still excelled in his ineptitude. Reid was ridiculed as much for his dabblings in the transfer market as his side’s poor performances on the pitch, especially the loan signing of the comical Roque Junior. He was fired after his merry band of loanees picked up eight points from the first 12 games of the 2003-04 season.

9 Jacques Santini – Tottenham (June 2004 – November 2004) The former France boss was supposed to bring the glory days back to White Hart Line, but managed only 11 league games in charge. He left after an indifferent start to the season amid rumours of rows with sporting director Frank Arnesen.

“Hi, I’m just passing through.”

8 Christian Gross – Tottenham (December 1997 – September) Gross has since gone on to achieve great things at FC Basel, but at Spurs he gave the word ‘misfit’ a bad name. Gross led Spurs to the brink of the relegation zone in his first season. The national press took a disliking to him and he was told “You’re fired!” by Alan Sugar after three games of the 1998-99 season.

7 Egil Olsen – Wimbledon (June 1999 – May 2000) Olsen was appointed Wimbledon boss on the basis that he was renowned for playing suitably ugly football. Despite being crazy enough for the Craziest of Gangs, the welly-wearing Marxist succeeded only in getting the Dons relegated.

6 Ruud Gullit – Newcastle (August 1998 – August 1999) Whatever happened to the ‘sexy football’ Ruud promised? With the Toon Army already disillusioned with a 13th place league finish, Gullit challenged Alan Shearer to an ill-advised popularity contest. He lasted three games of the new season.

5 Steve Wigley – Southampton (August 2004 – December 2004) Steve Wigley didn’t look or talk like a Premier League manager, which was probably because he shouldn’t have been. Wigley managed just one win in 14 matches before getting the sack. Cynical Saints fans claim Wigley was only appointed to drag the club down the league table to make chairman Rupert Lowe’s plans to bring back Glenn Hoddle more bearable.

4 Stuart Gray – Southampton (March 2001 – October 2001) AKA Steve Wigley Version 1.0. Like Wigley he was promoted from within, and like Wigley he flopped. Although he was in charge of the win over Arsenal in the last game at The Dell, Gray mangaged only three other wins in 17 games in charge.

3 Paul Sturrock – Southampton (March 2004 – October 2004) It’s a hat-trick for Rupert Lowe. He knows the wrong man for the job when he sees him. Brought in from Plymouth Argyle, players and board members alike were rumoured to doubt his Premier League credentials. Sturrock seemed inclined to agree.

2 Mike Walker – Everton (January 1994 – November 1994) Life for Everton under Mike Walker made for good drama if not good football. He ‘saved’ them from relegation on the last day of the 1993-94 season (although he had got them into trouble in the first place). He was sacked after 12 matches without a win at the start of the next season.

1 Howard Wilkinson – Sunderland (October 2002 – March 2003) A disastrous appointment. Wilko left the Black Cats on the verge of relegation for Mick McCarthy to finish the job off. He lost 13 of his 20 league games in charge and was sacked after six defeats on the bounce.

A version of this article was first published in Sept. 2006

Source : http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/lists/474/10_terrible_pre.html
 
Yes, he brought him in.He also brought in Strachan, Dorigo, Sterland, Chapman, Fairclough, Lukic and Vinnie, among others. He also brought Gary Speed and David Batty through the Youth setup.

He's still the last homegrown manager to have won the top division, having won the old First Division with Leeds in 1992.

I think it's harsh to judge him on 5-6 months at Sunderland, when it is obvious he's had a lot of success.

He was notoriously hard on players, and it took a while to drill the standards and hard work into the Leeds players. I'm not surprised he didn't have an immediate impact on Sunderland.
 
Didn't he take the job in 1997? A good few years after the EPL was formed. And did he really do enough damage in a year to set you back 10+ years?

A good shout never the less though. Spurs have 2 more worthy candidates with Ramos and Santini too.
 
Osvaldo Ardiles.

Defence? nahh not for me:)

Only kept the job as long as he did because in the first month ofthe 94 season, the 5 up top policy looked good and worked a few times.
 
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