This article is not the best tbh. We have accurate numbers from Nvidia's earnings call with GPU sales down 51% from a year ago.
Much better graph here:
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Worst point for Gfx cards since 2005 - Surely this will flow through to pricing??
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Much better graph here:
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Think the consoles are very compelling this time too compared to PS4/XBOX ONE gen, I bought a new TV recently, downloaded Warzone 2.0 and I sat genuinely wondering why I bother with PC gaming (especially with high FPS modes available in many titles). Of course, over time the gap will widen back to PC's favor (PS5 Pro aside), but for me, it's extremely difficult to justify a gaming PC at these prices and in light of the alternatives.
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This article is not the best tbh. We have accurate numbers from Nvidia's earnings call with GPU sales down 51% from a year ago.
Much better graph here:
But it still doesn't mention gamers.
If the sales of PC's is the predominant factor, and no one is upgrading anyway (becuase they don't need the power), then the reason NVIDIA have hiked their prices is they weren't expecting a lot of gamers to buy the cards. If that's true, we really can't expect any reductions at all.
From Nvidia's earnings report. It has the word gaming in it so good enough for you?
EDIT: To be honest I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
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Would welcome thoughts as have been keeping half an eye out for the right point to upgrade!
Desktop graphics card sales reach lowest point since 2005
In Jon Peddie's 2022 GPU market summary, Q3 shows the lowest desktop graphics card sales total since at least 2005. Like many other products, GPUs received a...www.techspot.com
Hardly surprising. There’s little to play that needs them, the pricing is embarrassing versus very competitively priced consoles that aren’t a million miles away from the PC market anymore. I still used my 1080Ti having previously bought the flagship of every generation, sometimes more than one. I remember a time when there were too many top quality games to play, every few months pushing the boundary of what was possible graphically.
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From Nvidia's earnings report. It has the word gaming in it so good enough for you?
EDIT: To be honest I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
What I am saying is that if NVIDIA expected these sales figures, because post pandemic PC sales are down and no one needs to upgrade anyway, then gamers are interpreting the lack of sales incorrectly. It has nothing to do with price and gamers sending a message - this was predicted beucase they expected sales to continue to decline. If that's what AMD and NVIDIA believe then it's no wonder they have pitched their prices so high, and every reason why we can expect them not to decrease those prices in the near future.
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Price them too high and guess what? Sales decline further. I'm not sure NV or AMD predicted a crypto winter again or rising inflation & interest rates and a recession of unknown depth at this stage. That's where further demand destruction will come from IMO. Expensive non-essentials like new cars and high price tag electrical items like phones and GPU's I think the sales will take a hit.
It'll be a case of balancing the supply and demand. If they're not able to sell what is being supplied I think they'll start decreasing prices somewhat. Given how high prices have gone, and acknowledging that R&D costs are rising each gen to get the performance out of the silicon and lower NM(AMD and NV have both said this), there's likely some wiggle room I'd say.
I might buy a 40 series if prices come down but I'm not going to moan and groan about the pricing at present. It is what it is. It's the first time for GPU generations I've not been keen to pick up an 80 or Titan tier GPU. I'm not a heavy gamer so not spending £1600 or £1200 for a 4080 and have zero interest in anything lower tiered. I'd rather skip a generation. I'm not sure what it would take for me to pull the trigger. £850 4080 maybe but like others I think the 4090 is really the one to get.
Nvidia don't traditionally drop their prices this early in a generation so it's a difficult call as to whether they will or not and there will be some unknowns, such as whether a production contract exists to produce x number of units.
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Why is this? ie only the highest range or not at all? eg why not a 4070 or whatever? Sorry, I'm completely clueless when it comes to the latest cards.
I have a 1440P UW monitor that can do 165hz. The only card that is going to push those frames at max settings I believe is the 4090. As soon as a big enough OLED 4K monitor comes out (that isn't a TV) I will upgrade to that so 4090 would have me covered.
The 4080 would probably do but the price of it is too close to the 4090 to make me consider it at this point.
Don't know enough about the 4070 But based on rumoured pricing again it doesn't make any sense to me.
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PG42UQ/PG48UQ, just how big do you need it to be??
Well, now that I've had an ultra wide, I don't want to go to a square TV like that. Even when I use my CX now with my console it just looks weird. Plus those are TVs and come with the same issues as the panels they are using in the lg's.
Alsooooo how they can justify nearly double the cost especially in the case of the ASUS I do not know.
My ideal size would be a 34-40 UW QDOLED at 4k.
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Ahhh I see, you're after a 38inch-ish oled then but you may have a wait. 45 due soon as you prob know, I'm liking the heavy curve on it tbh...
Yes, I shall be getting the tape measure out to see how it would fit on my desk. However, I suspect the price may be prohibitive. Also, I read the article in the thread but it didn't actually mention if it was 4K or not.
Plus I think it will actually be a little bit too big in ultrawide format. Probably what I'm after won't ever happen but there was that 38-in Dell ultra wide thingy.
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I would be in a similar position with the 4070(ti). Although it would be a cheaper alternative and it would offer me a performance upgrade, it simply wouldn't be enough for the expected price. The only worthwhile upgrade for me would be a 7900 or 4080 and both of these are just too expensive. I really can't justify £1200+ on a GPU.
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Straight outta nvidia's playbook.