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Worth Waiting for Penryn?

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Im trying to decide, go ahead with my current build i have planned (with a Q6600) Or wait for Penryn?, as Penryn isnt a major increase in performance it may be better to just skip it and upgrade when Nehalem gets here, what does everybody think?
 
Wait for Penryn, 3 months is nothing and instead of a Q6600 you can get a Q9450 in January. If you badly need a CPU for your computer until then just pick up a E2140/2160/2180.
 
Wait for Penryn, 3 months is nothing and instead of a Q6600 you can get a Q9450 in January. If you badly need a CPU for your computer until then just pick up a E2140/2160/2180.

Why waste 50 on a 2160?

Penryn is not that much of a perfromance boost.

I have a Q6600 clocked at 3.6ghz and will not get Penryn.

5% across the board is not worth 3 months wait and the high prices.
 
You could sell that CPU for about £30 at the time, you're only spending £20 really and that isn't a lot. You'd also get a higher re-sale value of a Q9450 when Nehalem comes. 5% is speculated so is "high prices", the performance increase could be more than 5% for all we know (or less than 5%) and it *could* be the same price as a Q6600. I'd rather wait to find out giving it's only a few months, but that's my opinion.
 
But on the flip side if he does wait he could pick up the Q6600 on the cheap as the new chips land.

I am in the same boat, but given the November release date of Penryn (seen it whispered on a few sites) I might just hold fire, but still in two minds...aaaggghhhh I hate being on the brink of decisions like this:p
 
I am in the same boat, but given the November release date of Penryn (seen it whispered on a few sites) I might just hold fire, but still in two minds...aaaggghhhh I hate being on the brink of decisions like this:p
The November release will be the flagship chip, i.e the one that costs about £700 or so :) The mainstream chips are January 08.
 
You could sell that CPU for about £30 at the time, you're only spending £20 really and that isn't a lot. You'd also get a higher re-sale value of a Q9450 when Nehalem comes. 5% is speculated so is "high prices", the performance increase could be more than 5% for all we know (or less than 5%) and it *could* be the same price as a Q6600. I'd rather wait to find out giving it's only a few months, but that's my opinion.

There are plenty of comparisons between C2D and penryn already.

And the increase is around 5%

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3069&p=3


"On average, Wolfdale ends up being just under 5% faster clock-for-clock than Conroe. Definitely not an earth shattering improvement, but an improvement nonetheless."



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Well there's:

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=837360&tp=Intel-Penryn-Preview&rid=837360

That's hardly 5%, it's more like an average of 8-10%. But again it's just an engineering sample and speculative, when I see Q9450 vs. Q6600 benchmarks from retail chips then I'll believe them if they are 5%, otherwise I'm going to hang on. Also look at the power reduction and due to that, the heat reduction. You may be talking 5% in pure performance at stock, which *could* be true, but couple that with lower temps and lower power usage and it's worth waiting even if it was just 5%.
 
But on the flip side if he does wait he could pick up the Q6600 on the cheap as the new chips land.

I am in the same boat, but given the November release date of Penryn (seen it whispered on a few sites) I might just hold fire, but still in two minds...aaaggghhhh I hate being on the brink of decisions like this:p

Q6600 is already cheap with chips on MM going for £130
 
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im also in the same situation, but have decided on a cheap dual core and overclock it to tide me over, then if penryn isnt worth the money, buy a Quad and sell the dual core.
 
Well there's:

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=837360&tp=Intel-Penryn-Preview&rid=837360

That's hardly 5%, it's more like an average of 8-10%. But again it's just an engineering sample and speculative, when I see Q9450 vs. Q6600 benchmarks from retail chips then I'll believe them if they are 5%, otherwise I'm going to hang on. Also look at the power reduction and due to that, the heat reduction. You may be talking 5% in pure performance at stock, which *could* be true, but couple that with lower temps and lower power usage and it's worth waiting even if it was just 5%.

No point in waiting for hardware IMO

Waiting for Penryn is pointless IMO if you need a PC now.
 
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If you can get by on your current spec id say wait, but im the kind of person that always waits for the slight discount around the corner lol
I don't think there will be a huge difference in performance, but id sooner have a true quad core. In your position id get a E2140 just to play with, possibly even a random second hand one, then upgrade later.
 
No point in waiting for hardware IMO

Waiting for Penryn is p[ointless IMO if you need a PC now.
I'd wait, but that's were me and you differ. It's 3 month away for a Penryn that IS more powerful, cooler and less power hungry than a Q6600, and *could* be the same price. 3 months to find out for me is fine, but obviously not for you and not for some other people as they want quads now which is fair enough, it's just down the person and if they can wait or not.
 
5% is on stock of course, the margin gets a lot more important when we start overclocking, and the penryn chips should clock well.
 
I'd wait, but that's were me and you differ. It's 3 month away for a Penryn that IS more powerful, cooler and less power hungry than a Q6600, and *could* be the same price. 3 months to find out for me is fine, but obviously not for you and not for some other people as they want quads now which is fair enough, it's just down the person and if they can wait or not.

If you wait you would never actually buy anything...:p
 
Maybe it will be only 5% clock for clock but there are factors in the equation.

Lower power consumption ergo less heat.
Very likely to be able to clock higher.

Now if we are talking 4gig Quads on AIR [as the norm rather than the exception] then i'm all over that.
 
get a conroe chip, two cores is more than enough for 99% of things at the moment, and im sure thats not gonna change anytime soon, whats the point in quad if nothing really uses them, when you could have a conroe for half the price, using less power, producing less heat yet still doing the exact same job, makes no sense IMO :confused:
 
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