would the R5 2400g game better with 32gb ram?

[ExoMale]

im looking at what current bundles there are and at what expense for the current climate if not just a typical pricing and im looking at both ryzen and intel, but maybe an APU till graphic cards are fundable.

im getting together a part list for the purpose of gaming via xbox game pass and the odd steam games, but nothing that should be too demanding id have thought, but i do know APU needs fast ram just dont know how much the gpu vram is limited too.

 

[simc1978]

I shouldn't imagine so. For gaming I'd look at a discrete GPU even if it's a cheap second hand one for now you can always upgrade in the future when/if prices return to earth

 

[mickyflinn]

16 gb of dual channel is enough unless you want to more.

 

[rare]

The 2400g supports a maximum of 2GB. 32GB is largely a waste for gaming, you would likely see better improvements from faster ram rather than more of it.

 

[muon]

Don't try and game on a 2400G. Just get a GT 1030 and a decent CPU.

At least you can later get a proper GPU and still have a decent processor.

 

[sandys]

I have gamed on 2400G and 3400G and more RAM does indeed help, basically whilst it dedicates 2Gb to itself of course game engines use more and use system RAM, the lack of dedicated RAM means you use more system RAM that a system with a highend GPU where they have a massive frame buffer.

But they thing to know is that it is not going to give you much extra performance, perhaps just less stuttering but no more fps as you will be limited by the Power of the GPU in the APU. Its is best suited to lighter gaming.

The GPUs do over clock and benefit from faster RAM more than they do more RAM, and by faster I mean tighter latencies. just know that 1080p30 is a challenge, gaming on an APU. is an exercise in finding the right settings balance, but I have managed all sorts, Cyberpunk, RDR2 and Far Cry etc, but you are talking PS4 level of performance, lower res, and testures, typically it is better to have a proper dedicated GPU

A 1030 is faster but is is enough faster to warrant the cost, I don't think it is unless you can pair it with a cheap CPU, the difficulty at the moment is finding good priced CPUs and GPUs unfortunately.

 

[subbytna]

Fast RAM will help more than amounts of available ram

 

[ExoMale]

thanks for replies.

yeah i did think 32gb would be too much, but i have never had 32gb ram nor a standalone ryzen apu, so i wasnt sure how much it would use, but if they are capped at 2gb vram then yeah its a big expense for no reason. im not particularly looking for an APU, ive only started back on pc because i just got the game pass ultimate otherwise i just play ps4, however i am trying to find a gpu for my dell and have lost out by a quid or two on the bay recently already and these are older cards, but im only looking at that route till my laptop sells.

i havent had chance to test some xbox games out yet that would need more than a potato to run ha, so i dont know what ill be able to get away with in terms of gpu options.

 

[Tetras]

They're decent enough with older games like Oblivion era, especially if they're DirectX 9 or 10, but like already said, 1080p in anything recent (DirectX 11/12) can be pushing it. It's not a particularly pleasant experience either, to be pinned at 30 fps.

You can try a youtube search with the game title and vega to get an idea

 

[Journey]

You get out of them what you put into them, loads of RAM isn't the answer, very fast RAM with very tight timings is key, and OC'ing the GPU over and above the CPU part of the APU is the important part.
I have both a 4650g (main day to day machine right now), and a little M-ITX 2200G, I've played games on them both, they aren't going to set the world alight, but they are great for such a compact solution, and with the GPU shortage bearable for some people while they bide their time.

 

[sandys]

GPU shortage bearable for some people while they bide their time.

Yup pretty much this, I have a 2400G, 3400G and 4300GE used in kids machines for gaming and low power machines, they are basically all the same speed more or less after a bit of OCing when it comes to gaming because AMD didn't see fit to upgrade the bit people really care about on APU, the GPU, it is weak and caps the CPU performance.

I forget that in my case I have sped up the machines with RAM cache tiered storage thing via from AMD, forget its name now, as they have some shonky slow ass hard drives that make PC use painful without, though I am doing that with 16Gb on my daughter machine and it runs most things fine, but you can disable it for bigger games.

lots of youtube from low spec gamer on APUs if you want to get a feel.

Popping the 1030 on your old machine may be the best option if you just want to go a few game pass games and don't really need more cpu power or modernised system.

 

[Cooler running]

im getting together a part list for the purpose of gaming via xbox game pass and the odd steam games, but nothing that should be too demanding id have thought, but i do know APU needs fast ram just dont know how much the gpu vram is limited too.

You likely won't see much uplift in performance above 16 GB of DRAM or 10 GB of GRAM (GPU memory). It won't hurt but also won't help unless you're planning on running a small handful of programs which are RAM bottlenecked, such as maybe a virtualization server might be.

 

[ExoMale]

thanks for replies. i guess then if i do find a decent priced APU bundle with ram options then i will select the fastest 16gb on offer. even if the 32gb ram option had the same sorta speeds/timings it will still be wasted if the gpu wouldnt have an option to see above 2gb going from what every is saying.

Popping the 1030 on your old machine may be the best option if you just want to go a few game pass games and don't really need more cpu power or modernised system.

well that was an idea i had as i have been looking at the older generations and missed out on an R7 250/hd6850 for 2 examples, obviously cards like the 6850 and so on would required a psu upgrade sooner rather than later. the xps was given to me from a family memeber and see no reason to part with it, nothing has been replaced since it was new, just gpu, ram, ssd upgraded that i did. but as i am going to build myself a new gaming computer i will max best the xps as much as possible in the mean time.

Trailmakers runs fine on current config, classic doom and fivenights at freddies obviously do, TSW also runs reasonable, Among Us as expected, Rocket Arena runs okish on low which so far TSW and Wreckfest along with Rocket Arena have been the only 3 games ive run that pushes the system. ironically Wreckfest auto detect puts the graphics at a custom of high/ultra/medium/low/disabled which i have had to put all on low to get Any attempt and this is at 1600x900 which is the current screen i have connected.

my system meets the minimum of wreckfest minus the gpu as it obviously doesnt have gaming performance especially compared to the gtx 460.


Trailmakers
classic doom
fivenights
TSW
Rocket Arena
AmongUs
Wreckfest
Flight Sim
Horizon 4
NFS Heat
SW Squadrons
City Skylines
Machinarium
Simcity

are really the only games between game pass and EA play im going to play/attempt to play on the dell until i can build a better system.

 

[HangTime]

The likelihood is if you are playing a game that needs a lot RAM then it will probably run very slowly on integrated graphics with those settings anyway. As mentioned better off going with fast RAM.