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Because it sounds fake to me, and has now disappeared off Toolband.com but apparently is on toollarmy
Would you be disappointed if the new Tool album really is called 10,000 days?
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Gilly said:
Do you know the band?
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If someone announced that the new Radiohead album was called 'Move Ya Body' then I'd think that it sounded like a fake.
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Gilly said:
It doesn't seem their style.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl/026-6012305-2689215
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...5551/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-6012305-2689215
Check the names and tracklistings on their last two albums and see how it would be a strange departure from this trend if the new album title is true...
Also, when it was annouced it was sandwhiched with a comment about this album being Tool's "blues" album, which seem facecious to me. Couple that with the fact that the band tend to leak false information and it makes me unsure.
It wouldn't surprise me if it is the title, as there have been references to 10,000 days being related to the CIA, Vietnam, Jesus's life between birth and the New Testament and the orbit of Saturn.
TBH I don't care what they call the album as long as it's good musically. This album is said to be far more political and their hardest stuff since Undertow. While I agree it's not a very Tool-ish title, all the posts made by BMB have made it obvious that this isn't Lateralus II.
I can confirm it's still posted on TA as a 'TA exclusive'.
TBH I don't care what they call the album as long as it's good musically. This album is said to be far more political and their hardest stuff since Undertow. While I agree it's not a very Tool-ish title, all the posts made by BMB have made it obvious that this isn't Lateralus II.
I can confirm it's still posted on TA as a 'TA exclusive'.
That sounds dancy though, which is a long way from Radiohead's style. 10,000 days is just rather generic really.Arcade Fire said:
Yeah, in comparison to their other albums I see what you mean, though if it is more political as mentioned and there's thought behind the name then I can't see how it would exactly disappoint. Depends how big a fan you are I guess.cleanbluesky said:
To be honest, I'm not really that arsed what they decide to call it, as long as it's every bit as good as their previous work I'll be more than happy.
Tool have never been ones to follow what would generally be considered to be the norm as such, and although I appreciate the points raised about this being a departure from their previous naming conventions, five years have passed since their last release and that is more than enough time for Maynard and the rest of the band to change their perspective.
I read an interview with Chino Moreno just after the release of the most recent Deftones album, where he said he'd like to release untitled albums with untitled tracks as he didn't like having to come up with names for his songs (hence the somewhat odd titles he eventually chose for some of them). The record label wouldn't allow it though...
Tool have never been ones to follow what would generally be considered to be the norm as such, and although I appreciate the points raised about this being a departure from their previous naming conventions, five years have passed since their last release and that is more than enough time for Maynard and the rest of the band to change their perspective.
I read an interview with Chino Moreno just after the release of the most recent Deftones album, where he said he'd like to release untitled albums with untitled tracks as he didn't like having to come up with names for his songs (hence the somewhat odd titles he eventually chose for some of them). The record label wouldn't allow it though...
Carzy said:What's BMB by the way?
And I'll reply to your email soon matey, just ain't had a chance yet
No worries
BMB is Blair - the guy who runs Toolband.com, makes all the posts etc. and is close friends with the band. He's basically the only source of official news from the band (barring the girl who runs merch and occasionally comes on ToolArmy).
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http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/assailing_eyes/tewl.jpg
check that picture including the supposed album track names...
Methinks 10,000 days may be a decoy
check that picture including the supposed album track names...
Methinks 10,000 days may be a decoy
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From a post I made on ToolNavy.com on the album title, having changed my mind on the quality of the title...
Anyone who knows a bit about the occult will know the references and some of the things that Tool depict in their music... I think that the references to Astrology are some of their most hard-hitting stuff and if that IS the connection then calling the album 10,000 days is not only appropriate but possibly very poignaint...
Don't know about Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned though...
I don't really know enough about Astrology to go into it any further, but I will pick the brains of someone who does and hopeully post back in a few days...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return
Knowing the manner in which astrology can work, the Saturn Return might be a rough figure. But what it does signify is CHANGE and maturity.
I think that Change and Maturity would be an excellent idea for the new album
Astrology Rob Hand calls Saturn Return "one of the most important times in your life. . . a time of endings and new beginnings."
"For most of us, ending a phase of life that is familiar and embarking on one that is new and untried is unsettling, even painful. Few people describe Saturn Return as a pleasant period. While undergoing your Saturn Return you may find yourself turning inward and reflecting on your individual destiny. You examine your true needs and desires and the role you want to play on the world's stage. You may feel lonely and alienated from those around you, while family and friends think you are shutting them out. But this is a necessary period of consolidation, when you must retreat from the distractions of the outer world and focus on yourself at your most fundamental level. The Saturn Return is every individual's search for the Holy Grail."
Saturn Return is one of the most crucial turning points you ever experience, when you assume the greatest responsibility of all: responsibility for your own life.
Read that and tell me that "10,000 days" sucks or that Disturbed got there first, I read the supposed title and I thought it was a joke because it didn't fit with what I expected. Sometimes it pays to look deeper before opening your mouth.
Egypt represents a link to the hidden past, including mythology and spirituality. While it cannot be conclusively proved, much of the occult and spirituality most likely originated in Egypt (unless there are older civilisations that we have not found yet) and the concepts of rebirth and importance of the lifecycle were first portrayed in Egyptian belief system - and have been repeated in about every major religion or spiritual system since then. The egyptian understanding of the world, the universe and spirituality is second to none.
The reason that I was disappointed was that Tool titles were becoming completely 'blank' or 'abstract' - the word Lateralus means nothing outside of the associations we each make as we listen to the music, same thing with most titles off that album - whereas "10,000 days" could have other associations. I do like the idea that Tool titles try to exist outside existing constructions that we have with words, but if "10,000 days" has an important enough association already existing I am willing to trust Tool on that...
Anyone who knows a bit about the occult will know the references and some of the things that Tool depict in their music... I think that the references to Astrology are some of their most hard-hitting stuff and if that IS the connection then calling the album 10,000 days is not only appropriate but possibly very poignaint...
Don't know about Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned though...
I don't really know enough about Astrology to go into it any further, but I will pick the brains of someone who does and hopeully post back in a few days...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return
Knowing the manner in which astrology can work, the Saturn Return might be a rough figure. But what it does signify is CHANGE and maturity.
I think that Change and Maturity would be an excellent idea for the new album
Astrology Rob Hand calls Saturn Return "one of the most important times in your life. . . a time of endings and new beginnings."
"For most of us, ending a phase of life that is familiar and embarking on one that is new and untried is unsettling, even painful. Few people describe Saturn Return as a pleasant period. While undergoing your Saturn Return you may find yourself turning inward and reflecting on your individual destiny. You examine your true needs and desires and the role you want to play on the world's stage. You may feel lonely and alienated from those around you, while family and friends think you are shutting them out. But this is a necessary period of consolidation, when you must retreat from the distractions of the outer world and focus on yourself at your most fundamental level. The Saturn Return is every individual's search for the Holy Grail."
Saturn Return is one of the most crucial turning points you ever experience, when you assume the greatest responsibility of all: responsibility for your own life.
Read that and tell me that "10,000 days" sucks or that Disturbed got there first, I read the supposed title and I thought it was a joke because it didn't fit with what I expected. Sometimes it pays to look deeper before opening your mouth.
Egypt represents a link to the hidden past, including mythology and spirituality. While it cannot be conclusively proved, much of the occult and spirituality most likely originated in Egypt (unless there are older civilisations that we have not found yet) and the concepts of rebirth and importance of the lifecycle were first portrayed in Egyptian belief system - and have been repeated in about every major religion or spiritual system since then. The egyptian understanding of the world, the universe and spirituality is second to none.
The reason that I was disappointed was that Tool titles were becoming completely 'blank' or 'abstract' - the word Lateralus means nothing outside of the associations we each make as we listen to the music, same thing with most titles off that album - whereas "10,000 days" could have other associations. I do like the idea that Tool titles try to exist outside existing constructions that we have with words, but if "10,000 days" has an important enough association already existing I am willing to trust Tool on that...
Wasn't one of No Doubts more recent albums called Saturn Returns?
It's a well-visited concept in album titling.
At the end of the day, I don't care what it's called, I'm not pretentious enough to allude to hidden meanings while Maynard and co cackle into their Lattes...As long as it's not another Lateralus, I'll be happy.
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It's a well-visited concept in album titling.
At the end of the day, I don't care what it's called, I'm not pretentious enough to allude to hidden meanings while Maynard and co cackle into their Lattes...As long as it's not another Lateralus, I'll be happy.
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