Would you have stayed calm?

silversurfer · 5 Oct 2006 at 12:17

Entai said:
But the XJR is definately automatic, the Vantage is most likely an automatic, and the Virage could be automatic, but is proabaly a manual, so one out of three I suppose is not to bad.

In that case it was cos they were posh cars

bitslice · 5 Oct 2006 at 12:48

FakeSnake said:
Unbelievably naieve outlook
I have had several autos, some hi-powered cars as well, never had an incident.

what are you all on about ? :rolleyes:

it was a POOL CAR...
(we had it for some disabled bloke)

must people don't drive autos,
therefore having something that takes off by itself is new to them
therefore accidents happen

try reading the post before spouting off please...

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gc123 · 5 Oct 2006 at 12:55

bitslice said:
what are you all on about ?

it was a POOL CAR...
(we had it for some disabled bloke)

must people don't drive autos,
therefore having something that takes off by itself is new to them
therefore accidents happen

try reading the post before spouting off please...

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so what your saying is they dont drive autos normally , so its the cars fault when they try to drive it and have an accident ?.

its like any other vehicle that is new to you , you spend a little time getting used to them (after you have used both feet on the brake pedal a few times you learn not to do it again

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have driven both and much prefer autos, especially with larger barges.

roboffer · 5 Oct 2006 at 12:58

I can just imagine that phone call to the insurance company...

bitslice · 5 Oct 2006 at 13:22

gc123 said:
.... so its the cars fault when they try to drive it and have an accident ?..

no, I'm saying it's a contributing factor,
stop looking at it from an auto drivers point of view.

and nobody is saying autos are a stupid idea per se,
so there is no need to bounce about defending them.

they are just a stupid idea as a pool car.

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Rich · 5 Oct 2006 at 13:31

It seems his wife in her Volvo V70 4WD turbo thing (automatic) had drawn up just outside the garage, foot on brake, released brake forgetting she was in drive and not park, car lurched forward, she stamps on brake, hits accelerator and ploughs through doors and into the small gap between the two Astons.

Jesus H Christ. For the love of god report her before she kills somebody. How can you possibly have such a lack of control over your vehicle. Far be it from me to go the whole "childkiller" route, but what if that had been a pedestrian crossing?

lordrobs · 5 Oct 2006 at 14:54

bitslice said:
they are just a stupid idea as a pool car.

Not looking to disagree just for the sake of it but I'd say that from a licence point of view at least an Auto makes sense.

Auto- can be driven by anyone
Manual- Can't be driven by those with an auto only licence.

Dr Who · 5 Oct 2006 at 15:13

Depends what you worry about losing most, your wife or your cars...

I have insurance for my cars, but not for my wife...

Personally my wife has pranged several of my cars, but thats what insurance is for.. when she drives

As for auto's being the cause of a problem, well if you take your foot off a clutch and foget you have it in gear you are in just as much trouble, so sorry bitslice, your words have an awfully farty smell to them...

gc123 · 5 Oct 2006 at 15:34

"quote" no, I'm saying it's a contributing factor,
stop looking at it from an auto drivers point of view. "end quote"

iam not looking at it from a auto drivers point of view. we have 5 cars in the family and there isnt an auto amonst them.

have you thought that the pool car may be a lease car and your company may still be tied into that lease, therfore it makes financial sense to keep it being used.

Avalon · 5 Oct 2006 at 16:30

I'm sorry but while I'm glad everyone is OK I'd still be concerned about her (in)ability to operate a machine that is more than capable of killing people. Hit one car with another and I'm glad you're OK, do the same at a school crossing and we'd all be responding in quite a different way. Yes in this case she only demolished a garage and a nice car collection but I'd not be letting her near anything with a motor any time soon and certainly not an automatic as she has just demonstrated why she shouldn't be driving one.

The_Dark_Side · 5 Oct 2006 at 18:16

anyone that hits the accelerator when they were aiming for the brake needs their license removed asap.

Foghorn Leghorn · 5 Oct 2006 at 18:38

The_Dark_Side said:
anyone that hits the accelerator when they were aiming for the brake needs their license removed asap.

Agreed, its not like the pedal's the size of a postage stamp either :eek:

Fog

bitslice · 5 Oct 2006 at 21:54

lordrobs said:
Manual- Can't be driven by those with an auto only licence.

sorry, never met anyone with one of those,
even the disabled chap for whom the car was intended had a full licence.
...but a good point all the same

bitslice · 5 Oct 2006 at 22:01

Dr Who said:
As for auto's being the cause of a problem, well if you take your foot off a clutch and foget you have it in gear you are in just as much trouble, so sorry bitslice, your words have an awfully farty smell to them...

sigh, nowhere did I say the auto caused the problem...
only that is was a contributing factor.

In a manual, you take the foot off the clutch while in gear and it stalls...
(except in say a BMW, where it just creeps along)

I fail to see the BS in those statements :confused:

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bitslice · 5 Oct 2006 at 22:07

gc123 said:
iam not looking at it from a auto drivers point of view.

in a way you are,
you have driven them, therefore were used to what to expect, therefore safe as houses.

my point was about people using a POOL car, being unused to it, and therefore pranging the nearest parked car.

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robbiemc · 5 Oct 2006 at 22:48

bitslice said:
sorry, never met anyone with one of those,
even the disabled chap for whom the car was intended had a full licence.
...but a good point all the same

..Well you have now. I've only got an automatic licence (and happen to be disabled too).
That pool car would probably be useful for me.

Still this thread is getting a tad derailed.

The_Dark_Side · 5 Oct 2006 at 23:07

bitslice said:
sigh, nowhere did I say the auto caused the problem...
only that is was a contributing factor.

the "contributing factor" argument needs to be put to bed IMHO.
you could say that EVERYTHING was a contributing factor but the plain and simple cause of the accident was an unskilled driver, or dare i say it, someone who shouldn't even be a driver in the first place.
if they weren't familiar with an auto then they shouldn't have attempted to drive it in the first place.
rule number #1...YOU are your own safety officer.
and let's be honest, anyone that hits the accelerator when they were aiming for the HUGE brake pedal to it's left is making just about as basic an error as is possible.

n3vrmind · 6 Oct 2006 at 01:32

I could stay calm

If id had those cars at all in the first place then id be dissapointed that they were gone but knowing that both incidents could have come off so much worse for either him or his wife will make him appreciate that its not all that bad and i very much doubt someone with that much tin in their garage wont have insurance

Dr Who · 6 Oct 2006 at 07:07

I am guessing everybody here is a perfect driver that never makes a mistake..

One could say the owner was as unskilled after he spun his jag on a wet roundabout...

Maybe he shouldnt be allowed to own such cars..

bitslice · 6 Oct 2006 at 10:07

The_Dark_Side said:
the "contributing factor" argument needs to be put to bed IMHO.

The American National Highway Traffic Safety Administration did a study in 2004 on pedal error and sudden acceleration in Automatics.
As manuals were not included, I guess they think they are less of a risk.

OP: sorry for spamming your thread, I didn't exect this response.