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Poll: Would you return a card if it was a poor overclocker?

Would you return a card if it was a poor overclocker?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 18.3%

  • No

    Votes: 134 76.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 5.1%
  • Total voters
    175
No and its stupid because most peoples expectations are unrealistic due to the amount of people who run cards at unstable speeds and claim them to be 100% stable (on internet forums).
 
If you want a guarantee on overclocking, buy a card designed for overclocking. Like a Lightning, Classy, Matrix, SOC etc...Otherwise you are playing the lottery, as with cards designed for it, you can compensate low clocks with higher volts.

Unless the card fell flat on its face 10mhz above stock, I would also find it morally wrong to return it.
 
Cheers for your opinions guys!

Something odd I noticed, sortof unrelated. The anti-static packaging the card was in wasn't sealed? I always thought you had to cut them open with scissors.. The last card I bought was like this anyhow.
 
Swifty55 said:
I find it morally wrong, because overclocks aren't guaranteed and you're the one who takes a gamble on the purchase.
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another +1

The only time i'd consider a DSR for not overclocking well would be if i got a K series intel (or anything else where you pay extra for the option to overclock)
 
David_VI said:
How is this morally?

I just got a Gigabyte 670gtx Windforce 3X, expecting to be able to get some overclocks like I read in the 670gtx threads..

I've got my GPU offset at +83mhz, any higher and I get the display driver has stopped responding late on the Unigine Heaven benchmark..

Memory offset +185mhz (so far), but had a crash at 200mhz.

Would you call this normal? How likely is it to get a 670 that overclocks well? Is mine average or one of the under average ones?

Would you or have you DSR'ed a GPU and try another if you had this result?

Cheers my friends!
David
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18442959&highlight=startername_majnu

;)
 
If it does not meet your expectations then send it back. And yes I would send a card back if I paid £200+ for it and I was not happy with it.
 
David_VI said:
Cheers for your opinions guys!

Something odd I noticed, sortof unrelated. The anti-static packaging the card was in wasn't sealed? I always thought you had to cut them open with scissors.. The last card I bought was like this anyhow.
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Most cards don't come with antistatic packaging sealed nowadays (though some still do)
Others don't use it at all and come encased in antistatic foam instead.
 
Swifty55 said:
I find it morally wrong, because overclocks aren't guaranteed and you're the one who takes a gamble on the purchase.
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+1

Im the owner of a pair of GTX 590s which don't hardly oc at all unless you are a very brave person with a fire extinguisher.

I never once thought about sending them back.

I never oc for gaming anyway, ocing for me is just for fun and a bonus.
 
Of course it's morally wrong. The fact is that your card has been tested stable at the given clock speed for the card and tbh I'm surprised you can send them back at all.

If I was a company I would test the card and if it worked fine as per the spec I would bloody send it back to you again.

I agree with what's been said about buying something designed for the purpose you want it for.
 
If people send it back under DSR then they don't get reimbursed their postage costs anyway. OCUK slap it on B Grade stock, someone with more experience in overclocking then manages to get a decent overclock for a fraction of the price with full manufacturer warranty. :D

Those who are sensible and know it's a silicon lottery will keep the card. ;)
 
Only if the card was designed for overclocling from the start like the Lightening GPU's or the high end ASUS ones etc.
 
I enjoy overclocking as much as the next person but wouldn't return a GPU unless it was faulty at stock.
 
Matrix 7970 Matrix Platinum that wouldnt sit stable at 1200mhz (100mhz more than 'stock') - despite being sold with a multitude of overclocking features. Best possible return regardless of voltage was 1170mhz.

This was returned without any qualms. Plus it was artifacting mildly at stock - this may have been driver issue but not prepared to take that chance.

You don't pay a premium for these features for them not to operate as sold.

However, if I was purchasing a reference card with the intention of overclocking then no, you pays your money and takes your chance - thats just bad luck.
 
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I bought a card, it's designed to be over clocked says on the box. Most will unless they are reference. Other companies add different coolers to allow this. So if it was terrible at it I would say yes you could return it as long as it mentions it on the box or their website. Otherwise no.
 
Space Monkey said:
Surely you buy something based on its advertised specs, if its not up to spec then you've bought the wrong product.
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I'm not sure if you thinks it's OK to DSR or not from your post but I assume you think it's OK depending on the circumstances, if so I agree. If the "advertised specs" state "record-breaking overclocking" and costs £100 premium and it doesn't OC well it is OK to DSR.

For example, if you bought a Matrix Platinum 7970 and it maxed out at 1170 stable in Crysis 2. Given the blurb in the following link "direct from ASUS", would you find a tiny 70 MHz OC acceptable?

http://www.asus.com/ROG/MATRIXHD7970P3GD5/

I can understand it being morally wrong to DSR when it comes to reference designs, or even custom cooled non premium edition cards. IMHO it is not morally wrong when it comes to premium priced special OC edition cards that can't OC for crap.
 
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Not normally, it disgusts me a little. The only exception being if a card is sold specifically as being something special in the overclocking department and doesn't manage atleast an average overclock (i.e. the gigabyte SoCs). Definitely wouldn't do it with a standard retail card on stock cooler, etc.


EDIT: The gpu in question happens to have "- Full length PCB, better for overclocking" as part of its description so in this case I'd be more likely to consider DSRing it if it was a poor clocker.
 
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