WoW - How??
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You can't ask that question and expect to get an answer. The thread is already full of factless statements and blanket stereotypical representations. "wow is for kids" "wow is all the other MMO's in one" "wow is skill-less" Yet not one person has tried to provide any real insight to these statements at all. I wonder if there is any proof to what they are saying or if they are just slagging it off 'cause they want to be different. Go against the masses! Down with The Man!
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DampCat said:
I've played several MMOs and WoW has not one unique thing under it's polished skin.Questing is rudimentary,trade skills are limited and too easy to level,PvP is heavily gear biased rather than skill based for most,1-70 takes too little time,PvP is either a battlegrounds grind-fest or ganking..world PvP having taken a back seat due to less honor points for killing in this way,Blizzards servers not being able to cope and the utterly retarded increasing res-timer.
Lots of MMOs have done all these things better.Blizzard's talent was to take all of this and bring it into the mainstream by making it a) Pretty but system friendly b)Very easy to get into and c) A highly polished and 'finished' feel to it.That there is no innovation isn't a bad thing..a),b) and c) are all highly sought after game qualities.However there's no getting around the fact that there is nothing 'new' in this game.
I played and loved this game for over two years.I don't hate it,I've just grown tired of it.
Factless? No..I don't think so.Now justify your position...if you can
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MNuTz said:
So what do the "pro-MMO's" offer? They sound crap tbh :/
I never played galaxies when it was good - but most of my mates prefer WoW to when they played in (and they played it quite a bit and did like it).
You say they've noobified it and made it look good...but what's wrong with making it look good? How have they noobified it? When I was raiding properly I had no evenings spare - surely if it was any different you'd have to have no job to play.
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Robert said:
I played WoW for about a year, did a lot of raiding etc but eventually got tired of it. I always thought SWG was poop.
What makes WoW "noobie" is the fact that nearly the entire game is just too easy and simple. MMOs such as EQ, Vanguard and even LOTRO add depth, and it's actually hard to do some things. Not that there's necessarily more or less "skill", you just have to be more careful, and use your head a little more.
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badgermonkey said:
Maybe bad examples. I understand what you mean about the PvP although I know absolutly nothing about WoW because i refuse to play it ( addiction fear
)Flaming it keeps me away from it in all honosty. Please no persausive skills pleeease. I want the smallest amount of control over the time i spent on the PC.
The amount of times I have seen people start to play WoW.. to which I never see them again because they play WoW 10 hours a day like so..
badgermonkey said:
some things in wow are made quite hard too it's just the masses of baseless whines then the devs cave in to the pressure and nerf, this goes equally for pvp(class balance) and pve encounters. i wish theyd get a detailed gameplan and stick to it. ever since beta they seem to have been winging it in regards to class balance. whos turn is it this patch to be top of the pile? rogues, hunters?
Another thing thats helped WoW out is the lack of competition, the only other succesful MMO I can think of is EVE and I wouldnt really class those 2 games in the same market - they've basically had a free market. Vanguard and LOTRO havent really changed anything and after playing both I can see why. Will be interesting to see what happens if WAR is as good as it could be then the market might have some serious competition which will be interesting.
NeoReloaded said:
Blizzard have an incredible track record. For the last 13 years or so they've developed some of the greatest PC games ever made. I think they've become to be respected by a lot of people. Sure, WoW appeals to a wide variety of gamers and as it's playerbase grows, so do the amount of people who want to try it.
I have played WOW on/off for 2years now. i have to say though that UO was a nicer game. major skill was involved. pvp was a stressful time, when if u died, you lost your armors and regs. however since UO being all AOSed i hated it. i have tried other morgs since, but only WOW had that fun factor that UO had.
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Hixxy said:
Tbh after a while the only things that were still "hard" were the high level raids. Not that I found other things easy (Alliance just suck at pvp), but they didn't feel like I was putting much effort in.
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Tis ok, I understand. It's not an amazing game, but the addictiveness does suck you in. If you fear that you might get stuck on it, steer clear of it! (It's not that great anyway
)ExRayTed said:Factless? No..I don't think so.Now justify your position...if you can
My position is justified! I made a statement about lack of explanation, and you then posted and explained your reasons. At no point did i say they were wrong (it's an opinion anyways, there is no right or wrong) for what they said, merely that they were wrong for not backing it up!
For record though, i enjoyed WoW very much, i too have grown tired of it as i am a casual player, and there's only so many times you can reach 70 with nothing else to do before you get bored
DampCat said:For record though, i enjoyed WoW very much, i too have grown tired of it as i am a casual player, and there's only so many times you can reach 70 with nothing else to do before you get bored
You can't be that casual if you have multiple level 70s! My guild are all casual players, and between 5 of us, we have 3 level 70s, two of which were 60 when the expansion came out.
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For those that think that Blizzard has been mainly lucky to have such a success with WoW...well, you couldnt be any more wrong! Just like Lord of the rings, where it already had its fanbase before the game comes out, the Warcraft(1 till 3) strategy games had similar impact. Im not gonna go over the specifics but each of those strategies has generally offered good balance between sides that could "hook up" any gamer into lots of hours spent on it. When WoW came out, it wasnt the first game of this type but surely had the solid story of the strategies behind it and imho, it is the strategy prequels that made the creators go for such graphics because despite looking kinda kiddish, they are how the true Warcraft fans used to see the strategy graphics years ago.
Btw, for anyone not playing WoW but still generally likes the game, I would recomment Warcraft III. Its fairly cheap to get nowadays and it covers lots of things before the period thats in WoW(like for instance, the founding of Durotar or the separation of the Forsaken from the Scourge etc). Not to mention that the game itself is good!
Btw, for anyone not playing WoW but still generally likes the game, I would recomment Warcraft III. Its fairly cheap to get nowadays and it covers lots of things before the period thats in WoW(like for instance, the founding of Durotar or the separation of the Forsaken from the Scourge etc). Not to mention that the game itself is good!
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