WOW - Worst Class?

[Phalanx]

A weapon can only have one buff on it at any one time - the more powerful windfury spell overwrites the effect from windfury totem. This is what I mean about shamans being totally overrated in pvp - there's so many myths floating around. I'd only ever use the wf totem if there was a warrior in my group.

Most people would rather a shaman uses their Grace of air totem to Windfury, though windfury is nice, the huge increase to agility is much more beneficial

 

[scorza]

Most people would rather a shaman uses their Grace of air totem to Windfury, though windfury is nice, the huge increase to agility is much more beneficial

If we're talking about PvE raid groups here it don't matter what everyone else would prefer, if the MT is in my group then he gets what he wants - and they always want windfury. Tranquil Air Totem is the second most useful air totem.

In PvP its mostly pointless dropping any buff totems, since everyone usually runs out of range within 2 seconds of dropping it

 

[Semiskimmed]

the main tank wants windfury totems? thats a bit weird isnt it as the main tank wont be doing any major damage and is usually last in the DPs stakes. surely a strength buff would be more beneficial so the mt can block more with his shield?

 

[Semiskimmed]

As another Prot warrior I kinda have to disagree, if you are a good tank (i'm reasonably equipped, but none of the tier stuff aside from heroism) and I did a raid a couple days ago with someone from one of the biggest raiding guilds and they tried to headhunt me for OTing because I did a run in UBRS and between me and a couple of friends (druid(feral) and priest) we saved the run several times from bad pulls and I am talking upwards of ten mobs at a time on a couple occasions.

I refused to leave my guild to join them and they still want me to sideline with them ... ZG MC and Ony once I get the preq done.

I've only been level 60 for a few months now but people quite often say I am better at tanking than better equipped tanks.

anyway My least favorite class is the Shaman without a doubt because they quite often think its a really good idea to open up with chain lightning and shocks, and its nigh on impossible to keep mobs taunted during that kinda thing.

When will people learn that drawing agg from a tank that has slows on them is a horrifically bad idea?

what is it you are disagreeing with exactly? a good tank wont do damage, itll just keep aggro and take damage. prot tanks just cant keep up with anyone for doing damage. the only time a prot tank will excel in pvp is in alterac valley where they can tank the npcs.
ubrs is a tricky instance in places for pulling adds, but its striaght forward if you have a decent group, ive often tanked 3-4 mobs in there at once as we have had pats and stuff come in. the worst things in there are the huge dragonkins though, they hit VERY hard and i wouldnt like to get 2 of those at any one time on a regular basis.

 

[Semiskimmed]

Thats interesting we talking 5 man's here? If shamans are pulling then they need to "l2p". Only should a warrior pull mobs.

ive had no problem getting aggro from anyone in the group when theyve pulled mobs, if they choose to pull mobs then they must know that they have to not attack it and let the tank get aggro.

 

[CliffyG]

I can see a theory of windfury to help build rage up a bit quicker but can honestly say i've never seen a MT ask for it.

 

[scorza]

the main tank wants windfury totems? thats a bit weird isnt it as the main tank wont be doing any major damage and is usually last in the DPs stakes. surely a strength buff would be more beneficial so the mt can block more with his shield?

They get the strength totem as well - thats an earth totem so we can drop them at the same time as an air totem. All the MT warriors I've spoke to tell me that windfury = more aggro for them which is why they like it, I won't pretend I know exactly why though. One thing I have learnt in MMOGs is never argue with a main tank - they are always right, even when they are wrong

 

[Puppetmaster]

more damage eqauls higher aggro form the mt

 

[Kodiak]

Hmmm, tough one to decide about 'worst' class.

I play a hunter, 60 with 6/8 tier 2 and in PvP I can pretty much 'pwn' all. However, it depends on the player behind the character. For example;A good warrior will not let a hunter get 8 yards away. A good rogue will try to pick you off when your alone, stun-locking you to death.
In my 18 months of playing Ive seen some really crappy players in awesome gear be out done by the 'n00b' in blues and greens.

However, I will say Hunters are the most UNBALANCED class. With scaling issues occuring mid BWL level, lack of 1-hander weapons thats NOT taken by rogues/warriors, lack of 2-hander weapons thats NOT taken by warriors, poor itemisation with ranged weapons, the 10 second rotation to get best DPS, only 3 avalible specs (yet only 1 will get you into raids), being the butt of all the jokes, blamed for every wipe (with your pet got agro, even though it was someone else), being a tranq-bot, etc. The list goes on.
However, I am looking forward to TBC. Most/all of the issues i have with the Hunter class should be fixed/tweaked.

The one class that isnt broken is Warriors.
Just spec to fury, life is soo easy then. Or be a tank.

 

[Drake]

Kind of funny PvP has been mentioned so many times and not one person has mentioned soul link. I've got a pretty well geared lock, it was uber geared until Naxx came out but I stopped playing recently so only ever got 2 items out of there -_- anyway a soul link lock with good gear and a dose of skill is quite ridiculously strong as things are.

 

[Puppetmaster]

They get the strength totem as well - thats an earth totem so we can drop them at the same time as an air totem. All the MT warriors I've spoke to tell me that windfury = more aggro for them which is why they like it, I won't pretend I know exactly why though. One thing I have learnt in MMOGs is never argue with a main tank - they are always right, even when they are wrong

If im in the main tank group, il drop wind fury and strengh totem for increased damage all round.

If im in the dps group (rogues and hunters) il lay day grace of air.

When in the caster dps group (mages) il lay down tranquility totem, to reduce any aggro they generate.

Il always lay mana spring no matter what group i in.

 

[Dunks]

If im in the main tank group, il drop wind fury and strengh totem for increased damage all round.

If im in the dps group (rogues and hunters) il lay day grace of air.

When in the caster dps group (mages) il lay down tranquility totem, to reduce any aggro they generate.

Il always lay mana spring no matter what group i in.

I always put tranquil air down for all groups unless im in the MT group, last thing you want is some idiot pulling agro.

 

[scorza]

If im in the main tank group, il drop wind fury and strengh totem for increased damage all round.

If im in the dps group (rogues and hunters) il lay day grace of air.

When in the caster dps group (mages) il lay down tranquility totem, to reduce any aggro they generate.

Il always lay mana spring no matter what group i in.

Thats what I do as well - sometimes I'll be mean and cast tranquil air totem for the hunters and rogues though

 

[Semiskimmed]

The one class that isnt broken is Warriors.
Just spec to fury, life is soo easy then. Or be a tank.

yeah right, tell that to me when im on a lock or mage.
2 hitted anyone??

hunters are so inbalanced its crazy. they need to be nuked BIG time

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

Hunter is easily the worst "raiding" class in the game, along with warlock.

Both classes are just utterly subpar for Naxx content, if you didnt need tranq for gluth would be no reason to take a hunter at all.

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

yeah right, tell that to me when im on a lock or mage.
2 hitted anyone??

hunters are so inbalanced its crazy. they need to be nuked BIG time

Suggest you get better gear then, ive been ONE Shot by mages in my guild, nice 5k pyroblast. And warlocks are the most overpowered class in the game for 1v1 pvp, impossible to beat a good one. L2p

 

[Phalanx]

yeah right, tell that to me when im on a lock or mage.
2 hitted anyone??

hunters are so inbalanced its crazy. they need to be nuked BIG time

a warrior versus a mage:

Mage: sheep > blink > pyroblast
Warrior: huh? > doh > dead

 

[Zefan]

Jedi.

 

[Magister]

The one class that isnt broken is Warriors.

lolz. Warriors are up there with druids in PvP gimpness. They have DPS, yes, which is actually up there with rogues and mages, but versus good opponents there is no class that is easy for them in PvP. At the best of times the fight is 50-50 unless you vastly outgear them or get lucky with crits.

 

[cplhardnut]

warlocks own all