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X1900XT Question

I know. The Tagan supplies 420w ONLY to the 12v. I wasnt on about that in the post that you quoted.

Looking at the post I made, it shows the Make / Model of the psu, weather it has single or dual 12v lines, Amps on each line and the total Amps. Where does it look like Im noting the wattage of the 12v line? :rolleyes:

Nice enough, that you posted the link after I made my post...

Anyways, I was only listing the psu details that I could find info on that MG42Maniac posted in the first place.
 
Bennah said:
I know. The Tagan supplies 420w ONLY to the 12v. I wasnt on about that in the post that you quoted.

Looking at the post I made, it shows the Make / Model of the psu, weather it has single or dual 12v lines, Amps on each line and the total Amps. Where does it look like Im noting the wattage of the 12v line? :rolleyes:

Nice enough, that you posted the link after I made my post...

Anyways, I was only listing the psu details that I could find info on that MG42Maniac posted in the first place.
Your "total current" supplied is the sum of the currents and is flat out wrong.

Like it says a couple of posts up "the values given for the rail outputs are the maximum for each rail without any load connect to the other rail. You can't use the sum of the currents. Look for the combined wattage for the sum of the currents 12v1+12v2 etc and divide by the line voltage"
 
Ok, how about this then. I procurred an X1800XT for a mate from here last week and its been tested (and I mean thoroughly) by me son in our second pc. Hes played Dawn of war, BF2, HL2 (but not FEAR) and hammered the wotsit out of it for like 3-4 hours in one go, on and off for a few days now. It didn't play up once, stutter , freeze, lock up etc, played smooth and nice, and its being powered by an "Antec 380w" psu, thats about a year and a half old.
Now I know that leaves the long term performance out and only time would tell, but its gonna be used with an "enermax 485w" jobbie when its installed permanently. My point being I reckon that you don't an extremely powerful psu for these cards, but you need a "stable, quality" psu.
And on the subject of X1800/X1900 fans, I've just today quietened me case down a lot and other than on start up, the X1900XT fan is virtually silent, can hardly hear it at all. I really don't understand what ppl are saying about these fans being noisy, they're not (at idle anyway).
 
fornowagain said:
Your "total current" supplied is the sum of the currents and is flat out wrong.

Like it says a couple of posts up "the values given for the rail outputs are the maximum for each rail without any load connect to the other rail. You can't use the sum of the currents. Look for the combined wattage for the sum of the currents 12v1+12v2 etc and divide by the line voltage"

The Tagan does supply 40A. 20A on each of the 12v lines when in SPILT mode. When combined then you get 35A on the combined 12v line as it. Switch at the back to change from combined and spilt modes.
 
Bennah said:
The Tagan does supply 40A. 20A on each of the 12v lines when in SPILT mode. When combined then you get 35A on the combined 12v line as it. Switch at the back to change from combined and spilt modes.
Don't think so, the specs say it can supply 420w@12v max that's it any config you like. Split mode will increase stability, that's it. They feed from the same rectifier.


As for the Hiper. Whats 18+20 x 12, its not 360 is it.

t_hiper2_030.jpg
 
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nands said:
I don't think I am wasting money, the Powercolor X1900XT is currently £239.95 + VAT, but the cheapest 7900GTX is over £300 + VAT. The whole thing is new build so I have not bought the Sonata yet.

Agreed your not wasting money at all, x1900 XT clocked to XTX for the same performance as a 7900 GTX, but nearly £100 cheaper, how on earth is that wasting money, yes they are more power hungry, and give out more heat, but if thats no concern then its obvious, even id rather save £100 for the same performance, everybody would.

They aint loud at all, my x1800 XT 512mb is quieter than my old x800 XT PE, they only go loud for about 2 secs on start up when they run full speed, but then they drop to their 2D speeds which you can't hear at all, but even under heavy gaming they hardly pick up, all i can hear is a faint hum if i really go up against my case and listen for it, and you won't hear it at all if your gaming, unless you play with the sound off, its just fanboyism yet again, if they are happy with paying over £100 more for the same performance, then let them get on with it mate.
 
Thanks for the info, Yorkshirepadd. I reckon I am going to go for the Hiper 580 for a bit more peace of mind. As pointed out by fornowagain it definitely complies with the 30Amp stipulation on the ATI website.

Bit of a bummer that the Powercolor cards are no sold out. Nevermind, the Connect3D one will do the same job. Does anyone know if you get any free software with it (or any of the other X1900XTs - I know that Sapphire give you a choice of two games but I am not bothered by their selection!).
 
nands said:
Thanks for the info, Yorkshirepadd. I reckon I am going to go for the Hiper 580 for a bit more peace of mind. As pointed out by fornowagain it definitely complies with the 30Amp stipulation on the ATI website.

Bit of a bummer that the Powercolor cards are no sold out. Nevermind, the Connect3D one will do the same job. Does anyone know if you get any free software with it (or any of the other X1900XTs - I know that Sapphire give you a choice of two games but I am not bothered by their selection!).


No worries,

tbh I probably should look at upgrading my psu at somepoint in the near future. As yes the graphics card is running pretty sweet but I don't really want it to die on me. And I've also just fitted a Hauppauge Wintv 9002 dv-t tuner card and I'm sure it'll draw some current if I ever get it to work properly ! naff installation process and naff support website !
 
nands said:
Thanks for the info, Yorkshirepadd. I reckon I am going to go for the Hiper 580 for a bit more peace of mind. As pointed out by fornowagain it definitely complies with the 30Amp stipulation on the ATI website.

Must admit to be being totally baffled by some of the above posts re total wattage etc etc....

However I have the Hiper Type R running the spec below & have had no probs at all...Would'nt say it is noisy either tbh.
 
fornowagain said:
Don't think so, the specs say it can supply 420w@12v max that's it any config you like. Split mode will increase stability, that's it. They feed from the same rectifier.


As for the Hiper. Whats 18+20 x 12, its not 360 is it.

t_hiper2_030.jpg

Why are you showing me this? Trying to pull one over me ? Whats the point :rolleyes:

Im not saying your figures and what not are wrong. Im not going on about wattage. Im going on about Amps on each line. The specs say that in spilt mode the Tagan can provide 20A on each line. Thats what I said and you started to pick holes in it. Simple as. I think its enough of this anyways.

If you wanted to make a point, you have done it. End of. :o
 
djjuk, it is good to hear that the combi I have selected is being run, and enjoyed, by someone!! I will get that tomorrow (bit of finance to sort first!)
 
nands said:
djjuk, it is good to hear that the combi I have selected is being run, and enjoyed, by someone!! I will get that tomorrow (bit of finance to sort first!)

No probs mate...Enjoy your new toys :cool:
 
Bennah said:
Why are you showing me this? Trying to pull one over me ? Whats the point :rolleyes:

Im not saying your figures and what not are wrong. Im not going on about wattage. Im going on about Amps on each line. The specs say that in spilt mode the Tagan can provide 20A on each line. Thats what I said and you started to pick holes in it. Simple as. I think its enough of this anyways.

If you wanted to make a point, you have done it. End of. :o
Rolleyes? I'm trying to show you that the each rail current is not the same as the total current available. I wouldn't want anyone to buy the Tagan thinking it can supply 40A when in reality it's only 32A. Wattage and current are two sides of a three sided equation, they do not exist in isolation.

Don't take offence it's not intended.
 
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