X2 3800+ or 4200+

MeatLoaf · 15 Apr 2006 at 20:40

Is the 4200+ worth the extra over the 3800+. i will be overclocking.

Kesnel · 15 Apr 2006 at 20:42

Not really worth it, both will clock similarly. The 3800s are looking particularly good at the moment.

4Qman · 15 Apr 2006 at 20:52

3800X2 definatly, at the moment as Kesnel will agree they are about the best chip for overclocking at the moment.

MeatLoaf · 15 Apr 2006 at 22:01

Cheers. I may as well get the OEM model, my freezer could do with a clean but i may as well get another one and keep this one as a spare.

cuscus97 · 15 Apr 2006 at 23:12

can't argue with 2.6ghz stock voltage (my LDBHE 0601 UPMW X2 3800).

Definitely save some money and get the X2 3800.

MeatLoaf · 15 Apr 2006 at 23:59

Sweet, what mobo are you running that on?

Booner! · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:23

3800+ mate, dont go for the 4200+ because the extra clock speed can be achieved with overclock

cuscus97 · 16 Apr 2006 at 08:05

MeatLoaf said:
Sweet, what mobo are you running that on?

DFI NF4 Ultra-D.

All the 06xx chips are doing well, but i was lucky to catch an 0601 UPMW. They are the bees knees.

Basically, with a 3800, the minimum OC seen at the minute is about 2.6ghz, with most people pushing 2.8ghz. And this is under air/water i hasten to add, nothing really over the top.

MeatLoaf · 16 Apr 2006 at 09:49

If i can get to 2.5 then i will be happy

Mr Mister · 16 Apr 2006 at 09:55

the retail 3800x2's are the better stepping for overclocking than the oem. I paid a premium for the retail as i knew it was better even though i will never need the heatsink.

MeatLoaf · 16 Apr 2006 at 10:22

Mr Mister said:
the retail 3800x2's are the better stepping for overclocking than the oem. I paid a premium for the retail as i knew it was better even though i will never need the heatsink.

Thanks mate, i will go for the retail part then. At least i have a spare fan if ever i need it.

=IH=RePhLeX · 16 Apr 2006 at 15:52

cuscus97 said:
DFI NF4 Ultra-D.

All the 06xx chips are doing well, but i was lucky to catch an 0601 UPMW. They are the bees knees.

Basically, with a 3800, the minimum OC seen at the minute is about 2.6ghz, with most people pushing 2.8ghz. And this is under air/water i hasten to add, nothing really over the top.

what fsb/x u using to get that?..2.8gig from a 2gig cpu is pretty impressive.. :cool:

=IH=RePhLeX · 16 Apr 2006 at 15:54

nm..just seen x2 3800 oc thread..

thanks.

Jimbo · 16 Apr 2006 at 21:04

I just overclocked my x2 3800 to 4200 speeds with ease. Not even a slight increase in temps either, im delighted.

cuscus97 · 17 Apr 2006 at 09:44

yeah i reverted back to stock cooling the other day (water cooling was a bit loud).

Even with the stock fan (not the cool heatpipe jobby, the dull one) i am currently doing 2.4ghz with stock volts and it's loading at 47c. SP2004 stable.

2.5ghz is an absolute doddle.

MeatLoaf · 17 Apr 2006 at 15:45

Still not sure which one to get.

Am really leaning towards the 4200+ as im guessing the higher multi will aid in overclocking.
My board tops out at 267HTT, so if i got a 3800+ that would give me 2.67Ghz ( assuming the cpu is a decent clocker ) but the 4200+ would give me almost 3Ghz.

At worst im hoping i can get it to 2.7Ghz the same as my current 3700+

Goody_GTI · 17 Apr 2006 at 16:02

MeatLoaf said:
Still not sure which one to get.

Am really leaning towards the 4200+ as im guessing the higher multi will aid in overclocking.
My board tops out at 267HTT, so if i got a 3800+ that would give me 2.67Ghz ( assuming the cpu is a decent clocker ) but the 4200+ would give me almost 3Ghz.

At worst im hoping i can get it to 2.7Ghz the same as my current 3700+

Suppose its down to whether your prepared to spend the extra £60 for the 4200? Even then what overclock you get will be down to whether you get a good stepping cpu or not, so just because the 4200 has a 11x multi, it still may not clock as well as a good stepping 3800

MeatLoaf · 17 Apr 2006 at 16:30

Well if i got the 3800+ i would get the retail chip as ive heard its better steppings for overclocking, so then the 4200+ would only be £35 more.

Goody_GTI · 17 Apr 2006 at 16:33

Go for the 4200 then mate, and just hope it clocks well

Cyanide · 17 Apr 2006 at 16:54

My 4200+ went up to 2.7 on stock voltage and cooling, managed to push 2.8 after some basic water cooling, which also cools my SLI cards, so I didn't expect too much from it!