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So who's going to buy an R600. I think there is enouph details to make a decision now. Only thing left for AMD to do, is port it onto a 65nm process, to increase performance a little and use less power (more overclocking ;))

-- Jonny
 
Slenpree said:
So who's going to buy an R600. I think there is enouph details to make a decision now. Only thing left for AMD to do, is port it onto a 65nm process, to increase performance a little and use less power (more overclocking ;))

-- Jonny
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Sounds like they have done it already and that is infact what will be released.
 
im gona get a r600 i need to know the full specs though as im looking to spend in the region of £250
so it will probally be a 2800???
 
jaykay said:
im gona get a r600 i need to know the full specs though as im looking to spend in the region of £250
so it will probally be a 2800???
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Same here ATI for the win (hopefully). Im hoping the xt will be ~ this price but who knows
 
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I know that AMD/ATI has comfirmed R600 is infact 65nm process, the question that is bugging me is that on their tech sheet it still says 240W power draw on their top of the range card, is that 240W quoted based on the old 80nm or the newer 65nm process? As 240W for a 65nm die is quite immense surely?
 
mcc49 said:
I know that AMD/ATI has comfirmed R600 is infact 65nm process, the question that is bugging me is that on their tech sheet it still says 240W power draw on their top of the range card, is that 240W quoted based on the old 80nm or the newer 65nm process? As 240W for a 65nm die is quite immense surely?
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Yes it does as that tech sheet is old, as i said in that thread about the tech sheet, TweakTown got hold of that article after AMD changed strategy, that was what AMD had originally planned (the TweakTown article), as that tech sheet even said 30th March was when it was available to buy, 240w etc... but it was long after that that AMD came out and said we have now changed our strategy, and are delaying the R600 till Q2 (May), and now they have also confirmed the process will be a 65nm, where that tech sheet was referring to an 80nm (which was originally planned), which is also what x1900's/x1800's etc... are, now with them changing it to a 65nm process it will use less power than those, and even use less than Nvidia's 8 series. :)
 
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thats good to hear, shame I will be building my new PC at the end of march with my week off work or I would have definately looked into the R600 as another option.
 
Jokester said:
Eh?

Have I missed the perfomance testing results?

Jokester
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Yes, 65nm. :D

Im waiting till its actually released me, i must be seriously dumb as i cant even tell how fast 65nm is, how the hell do you know how fast it is from that. :confused:
 
Knowing ATI's past track record, the R600 would probably paper launch the product in May but wont have enough for the retail demand till late June. I remember 3 years ago when I built this PC and was hoping to get the X800XT but had to end up with my current 6800GT cos supply was so poor.
 
generally there are people that build stuff, people in the industry and enough information without hard data to make an informed and educated guess. you can to a point say that barcelona will be faster than intels equivelent because the tech details are confirmed. if you read through the anandtech preview on it you can see that almost all the things that were added into conroe to make it a faster and more efficient cpu have been added to the x2's aswell. couple things differently because different architectures take advantage of things slightly differently. but there simply enough info and data to work out it will be faster.

G80 128 shaders, 384mbit bus, 768mb mem, 575/900 clockspeeds.
G90, same but on most likely the 65nm process(G81 same but on 80nm and sounds like its been scraped) and with higher clockspeeds and gddr4 is almost certain.

R600 128 shaders 512mbit bus, 1gig mem, sounds like what, 700-750/1000 clockspeeds(supposed to hit that on 80nm). it doesn't take a genius to make an educated guess that it will be faster. if its 100% certainly on 65nm process maybe clock speeds will be even higher. will that force nvidia to bump their bus up to 512mbit, maybe, will that add to developement time, transistor count and profits, yes. will the G90/81 or ever be hugely faster than either a G80, no, faster but not g70 to g80 type faster. will it be faster than r600, very hard to say, all info points to most likely extremely similar cards. if they perform more than 5-6% differently i'd be shocked.

you could not at all guess if R700 would be faster than a G100 because nothing is known about them, we however know a LOT about the r600.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yes, 65nm. :D

Im waiting till its actually released me, i must be seriously dumb as i cant even tell how fast 65nm is, how the hell do you know how fast it is from that. :confused:
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There is talk of a gig. More important though, by shrinking they can use more shaders or other tech. Can't wait :cool:
 
drunkenmaster said:
generally there are people that build stuff, people in the industry and enough information without hard data to make an informed and educated guess. you can to a point say that barcelona will be faster than intels equivelent because the tech details are confirmed. if you read through the anandtech preview on it you can see that almost all the things that were added into conroe to make it a faster and more efficient cpu have been added to the x2's aswell. couple things differently because different architectures take advantage of things slightly differently. but there simply enough info and data to work out it will be faster.

G80 128 shaders, 384mbit bus, 768mb mem, 575/900 clockspeeds.
G90, same but on most likely the 65nm process(G81 same but on 80nm and sounds like its been scraped) and with higher clockspeeds and gddr4 is almost certain.

R600 128 shaders 512mbit bus, 1gig mem, sounds like what, 700-750/1000 clockspeeds(supposed to hit that on 80nm). it doesn't take a genius to make an educated guess that it will be faster. if its 100% certainly on 65nm process maybe clock speeds will be even higher. will that force nvidia to bump their bus up to 512mbit, maybe, will that add to developement time, transistor count and profits, yes. will the G90/81 or ever be hugely faster than either a G80, no, faster but not g70 to g80 type faster. will it be faster than r600, very hard to say, all info points to most likely extremely similar cards. if they perform more than 5-6% differently i'd be shocked.

you could not at all guess if R700 would be faster than a G100 because nothing is known about them, we however know a LOT about the r600.
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Just becuase some numbers are bigger doesn't mean it'll be faster, remember P4?

Jokester
 
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