X399 Aorus Xtreme

[orbitalwalsh]

product page up and running with details on 10+3 Phase

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X399-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf

10 x IR 3578 50A = 500A total, 100A more then Gaming 7 was

https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/pro...ted-power-stage/ir-mosfet-power-stage/ir3578/

boards cooling


https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/Global/KeyFeature/980/images/X399.mp4

 

[orbitalwalsh]

The VRM is not a concern here its teh Bios and memory stuff that is!!!!!!

depends on the market but the need to sort out their designare range . Most users wanting 32 core workstation rig will slap in 3000hz cheapest ram and wont overclock - but as you say, those picking up the above want ...POWER, power power

be nice to see all the x399 boards running 32core in a shoot off . Wondering if in 'gaming mode' only using 8 cores will have any effect and ram speed for the chip and then a given board

 

[orbitalwalsh]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte X399 Aorus Xtreme AMD X399 (Socket TR4) DDR4 E-ATX Motherboard= £449.99

Total: £460.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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£50+ cheaper then Asus Zenith , not sure when MSI Meg is on pre-order but have a feeling they'll undercut Asus to

 

[orbitalwalsh]

That's $809 AU dollars, I just ordered MSI X399 MEG here and it's $746 + $17 shipping and $14 insurance with total $785 AU. Asus Zenith Extreme is $689 AU here atm.

thats not a bad price for Zenith mind! i hope asus send out the cooling kit free of charge to owners- would be a nice touch for customer service

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thread ripper review with the boards

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8706/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-2950x-review/index3.html

 

[orbitalwalsh]

review for the board without the CPU... HAHAHAH

https://thetechrevolutionist.com/20...-gigabytes-x399-aorus-xtreme-motherboard.html

 

[orbitalwalsh]

To be fair it is a "first look", but I'm pretty sure pictures of the board have been online for ages, so we've already looked and looked and looked.

i scrolled to the end and was like... outstanding . you get a board and yet dont have a chip. haha

I can see what you mean by asus zenith now

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...99_creation_and_threadripper_2990wx_review/16

thats impressive ! both have 8 phases - asus having the better IR units and controller , but doubling down and having a masisve heatsink... damn!

and people didn't believe me when i said x399 Aorus 7 wasn't designed to handle 32 core chip overclocked and why they made the Xtreme has extra tier product , great for 12/16 core but not 24/32 -

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I didn't read the article but the MEG has 16 phases not 8...

And even buildzoid is impressed with the VRMs which make the Zenith look pathetic. Hell even the X470 CH7 has better power delivery

meg users a doubler - so 8 TRUE phases . fact that using doubler helps greatly with heat . Even listed in MSI page in their VRM diagram - because its a TRUE double phase set up unlike what Gigabte did with Aorus X470 Ultra and B450 Pro they havent got any wording or terms wrong.

Meg replaces their previous boards which were 10 phase or 5 doubled . Aorus Gaming 7 was 8 now replaced with 10 True phases as their 8 before hand couldn't handle 32 core (50A rated compared to zenith 60A) .

goes to show- doubling/grouping of phases can work out better then having true single VRMs as heat load is spread

On paper, the MSI MEG X399 creation has a nineteen-phase power delivery, which it indeed does, but upon closer inspection, the CPU phase is actually split into two banks of eight due to MSI electing to make use of eight Infineon IR3599 doublers. The CPU area is formidable with MSI opting for sixteen Infineon TDA21472 dual power stages for the CPU VCore and CPU input voltage. Each of the sixteen TDA21472 power stages has its own dedicated choke with the CPU section taking direction from an International Rectifier IR35201 eight phase PWM controller operating at 8+0.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13189/the-msi-meg-x399-creation-motherboard-review/2

question is - how will aorus xtreme do compared against the two as its the middle option in terms of phase count/design

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I trust Builzoid more than anandetch. He has the board and went through on each of it's chips.

If he says that given the IR chip used this is a 16 phase board, then it is a 16 phase board regardless the doubler according to him. Watch the video. It compares it to the rest like the Zenith

16 phases still tied to one 8 phase controller looking through it (Unless i missed the second controller) - but cant be helped . which is why im guessing MSI uses their Phase diagram
technically guessing- its true doubling .. Begs the question why zenith wasnt changed - even if its just marketing point of view, asus profits are a lot more then MSI

 

[orbitalwalsh]

SOC vrms better the most boards haha - did make me chuckle .

think the last boards to use quadroupling was asrock - surprised they haven't gone balls deep like MSI this time around . Know they had issues like lower Aorus boards for doubling claims

if there is space on the board they could easily go down for another 16 phases, as the doubler chips support quadroupling also.

begs the quesiton with zen2 - will we see true EATX boards for prosumers if in theory even more cores can be added haha

seems kitGuru has a board- hopefully OC3D will follow suit, since they'll got the Meg vs Zenith up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HOYJ9h4Pfs

 

[orbitalwalsh]

haha , that is a lot.... asus needs to bring back that naming scheme

asrock back when m.2 slots came out really pushed the boat

shame gigabyte didnt release this

have a feeling z390 from all vendors will have to produce

 

[orbitalwalsh]

review from Kitguru

 

[orbitalwalsh]

detailed VRM breakdown

nice to see metal caps to help transfer heat better from IR

https://techreport.com/review/34030/gigabyte-x399-aorus-xtreme-motherboard-reviewed

wonder if the X299 will feature the same design...