Xbox 360 Hacked?

its simple. As long as piracy requires the physical modification of a console, ie voiding the warranty, it will remain in the minority and thus not a problem. It is only when you get inherently easy hackability, like the dreamcasts cd-r reading ability, that you get problem piracy. Live! inevitably limits piracies appeal anyway.
 
MouseMat2004 said:
Like has been said the avg Joe Public wouldnt even know howto hack a games console or even know how to get hold of it so it doesnt make a huge difference for games sales (Just like MP3/Xvid etc), Also I bet the original Xbox made a lot of extra sales with all the homebrew stuff.

Besides, most of the 360 games I've seen have been over 4.3GB so not atm easy to copy.

Dual layer dvds are avalible to buy everywhere.
 
gord said:
:eek: IT was YOUUUuuuuuuuu!

good guess, actually MacDennis - hacking god :)

I'm quite happy that TheSpecialist has decided not to release a hacked firmware as it would mean that xbox live would suck for the rest of us.

There would be no way for the user to actually change the xex files as they are all signed by MS and once changed, would no longer work with this hack, but the problem lies with unsigned settings files in the games, which can easily be manipulated to give a 'cheat' or something on xblive.

I wouldn't think that MS should be worried on this respect, as there will only be a certain amount of die hard xbox modders who will actually take the risk of opening the dvd drive, desoldering the firmware chip, flashing with some external programmer and then resoldering back in.

Once a method has been devised to actually run unsigned xex's, then that shall be a time to get worried, as piracy will be rife, and that is just something MS is gonna have to live with.
 
PiKe said:
Someone I was speaking to just brought up a very good point.

How do we know thats not just a video dvd in there?

TheSpecialist is no faker or 'out to fool you' person - so this is almost certainly done, as I'm sure some here did follow the dvd hacking threads over at link removed - Davey, you would begin to realise that this guy knows his stuff.

The legal implications are the only thing stopping him releasing this hack, as there is no way of saying in court "yeah i was actually making this to run linux or homebrew" like bunnie did with the original xbox whenever he made the key discovery. This hack is plain and simply used for piracy - and nothing else.

Sorry for not really staying on topic, more of a rant here.
 
piracy is inevitable on all consoles, read my last post. Its not worth considering really. Why anyone cares astonishes me. its called acceptable loss people. its in every business plan!
 
As much as it will get hacked at some point, whats to say there isnt a 2nd 360 sitting behind the tv through the scart socket ;)
 
This kind of hack wont become wide spread its too tricky for most people to do also the hackers involved arnt intrested in making this info common place as for most hackers its all about the chase

Their next target will be the PS3
 
I cant see MS being too bothered about this to be honest.

There will always be a small percentage of people who will play pirated games but they are a big percentage of people who will buy the legit game.

1. Everyone starts buying 360's knowing they will play backups.
2. They wont flash/chip them until the 12 warranty is up. From the previous consoles i know this to be true in 90% of the cases.
3. They buy 6-8 games in that 12 month period.
4. 12 month period up and they now cant be bothered getting it flashed/chipped.
5. A small percentage do actually get it done and happily play pirated games, but this is something which is inevitble.
6. MS has sold lots of consoles and is now the market leader, job done!

The only bad effect of this is that backups now work on live, i really cant guess what problems this could cause.

JAMAL
 
To be honest I think MS want the console to get hacked - just looks at some of the features they have got in the XB360. Now look at a modded Xbox.....

Maybe they just want ideas for the next Xbox :D

I just hope that cheats are not released for the XB360 :(
 
Intresting thread, What I was wondering tho is it just playing copy'd games that is illegal, b-cos I'm very intrested in seeing a linux distro up and running on the 360 or would that be classed as illegal also, as it seems a shame to waste all that power under the hood just to play games, the ps3 is being released with linux on it and full mouse and keyboard suppport.
 
lowrider007 said:
I'm very intrested in seeing a linux distro up and running on the 360 or would that be classed as illegal also
That in itself would be perfectly legal, depending on what was required to get linux booting however.

Duradrum said:
The hack simply allows the 360 to run unsigned copies by tricking it into thinking its a signed disc. Therefore, Live works perfectly as the 360 thinks everything is legit.
Just to clarify (as Rossmac said) this hack does not allow booting unsigned code / homebrew or imports to be run on an xbox, it merely allows copies of original games to run from media other than printed xbox discs (ie DVD-R).

~J~ said:
Truth betold, for the determined 'hacker' (read thief), this is probably good news, but for the average common gamer, it's just impracticle to keep flashing the BIOS for the sake of gaming.
Determined hackers are not necessarily thiefs, they tend to do this for the challenge/kudos. Poor choice of wording perhaps.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
yeah heard about this the other week, about time, might make them think about bringing the price of the games down from £50 (shops), 360 sales will go through the roof now. :D

Agree, save me a lot.
 
uchuff said:
Just to clarify (as Rossmac said) this hack does not allow booting unsigned code / homebrew or imports to be run on an xbox, it merely allows copies of original games to run from media other than printed xbox discs (ie DVD-R).

I hope this doesn't happen as I think it would badly affect Live! and sour the experience. I know people are going to ask me why I think that and I can't quite find the right terminology but I think people that get something for "free" tend to appreciate it less and abuse it more.

In some way I would prefer unsigned code to be run than dodgy copies of games, I trust M$ will get a fix out.
 
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