Xbox 360 HD question

Youstolemyname · 29 Apr 2007 at 20:39

My little brother got a brand new Phillips 23PF5321/01 LCD TV for his birthday and is having real trouble getting the xbox 360 to display in HD mode on it.

First off, it has no component input on the rear. Just a DVI-D input which is labeled PC/HD. I got him a hd VGA cable for the 360 and used a spare VGA-DVI-D converter I had lying around to connect it but whenever we go to select screen modes, hd options are not available. The text says we must have a HD ready cable to select these modes.

On using the composite input and the standard microsoft cable that came with the 360, we get the options to select HD modes but naturally the composite wont deliver a HD output.

Any ideas how I can make this lil 14 year old happy as at the moment his birthday pressie is a big let down for the poor lad.

Cheers.

TriedandTested · 29 Apr 2007 at 20:51

Does the VGA cable come with a little switch near the connector end that changes from TV to HD - like the component cable does?

KNiVES · 29 Apr 2007 at 20:52

It's in the realm of possibility that the TV is not HD.

Youstolemyname · 29 Apr 2007 at 20:53

Tried&Tested said:
Does the VGA cable come with a little switch near the connector end that changes from TV to HD - like the component cable does?

Nope- looked for that and couldn't find it. The TV is deffo HD and supports 720p.

Im baffled.

TriedandTested · 29 Apr 2007 at 20:55

Hmm...that's me done then. Never used a VGA cable. Someone here must be able to help!

Zico · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:01

I've had a look on the Philips support page for the TV but it doesn't mention anything about connecting a 360.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=23PF5321/01&scy=GB&slg=en#

As far as I can see the TV does do HD but only via the DVI connection. The only thing is, if this is a Digital connection input only then the 360 won't work as it's only outputting Analog via the VGA cable.

It doesn't look good I'm afraid. Is there any chance that your parents can return the TV and swap it out to something with a Component connection??

TriedandTested · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:04

How about selecting the HD res you want using the composite connector...switching off the xbox...connecting the VGA cable...then turning it back on?

Might be worth a shot?

But would be quite hard to get back to composite-compatible res if it doesn't!

Mr_White · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:04

Zico said:
As far as I can see the TV does do HD but only via the DVI connection. The only thing is, if this is a Digital connection input only then the 360 won't work as it's only outputting Analog via the VGA cable.

It's DVI-I so it supports VGA as well.

The only thing I could think is the converter is confusing the 360

WotDa · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:06

Could be the VGA-DVI adapter. I *think* I recall someone having fun with one in a similar situation.

Youstolemyname · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:07

I think they can take the telly back and exchange it. Will have to mention it to them when I next go round. Poor kid is gutted as his 360 looks all washed out on the TV.

So the VGA cable will only output HD on to a monitor? As it is branded as a HD VGA Cable that outputs in 720p etc etc

TriedandTested · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:08

Perhaps tell us how much it cost...maybe we could suggest a good one to get for the same money?..

WotDa · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:09

Youstolemyname said:
So the VGA cable will only output HD on to a monitor? As it is branded as a HD VGA Cable that outputs in 720p etc etc

Shouldn't make a difference tbh.

Youstolemyname · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:10

think it was about 300 quid....not sure

Andybtsn · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:11

Hey,

I had a Philips HD TV. The HD input was via the DVI port in the rear, with my 360 like you, I used a VGA cable and then a VGA to DVI adaptor (it needs to be DVI-I adaptor) then on the TV you need to use the "PC" channel as the Xbox only outputs an anologue signal, the PS3 for example uses a digital HDMI signal and therefore used the "HD" channel on the TV.

I see your using a DVI-D adaptor, this might have some bearing on your problem but my knowledge might be wrong?>

Zico · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:17

According to the UK Philips spec. it includes a DVI to Component cable:

Accessories
Included accessories : Power cord, Quick start guide, Registration card, Remote control, Table top stand, User manual
FM antenna : FM antenna
Cables : DVI-I to YPbPr cable

Have a look in the box and see if you can find it, then use the Component cable to connect and you should be able to select the HD output.

Youstolemyname · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:18

Andybtsn said:
Hey,

I had a Philips HD TV. The HD input was via the DVI port in the rear, with my 360 like you, I used a VGA cable and then a VGA to DVI adaptor (it needs to be DVI-I adaptor) then on the TV you need to use the "PC" channel as the Xbox only outputs an anologue signal, the PS3 for example uses a digital HDMI signal and therefore used the "HD" channel on the TV.

I see your using a DVI-D adaptor, this might have some bearing on your problem but my knowledge might be wrong?>

By jove i think you cracked it. Supposedly the DVI-D doesn't allow any HDMI handshaking so the xbox doesn't know to output in HD mode.

How much was the DVI-I adapter? Few quid from a competitor?

Andybtsn · 29 Apr 2007 at 21:21

Yeah or you can paypal me a couple of quid and i'll post one to you tomorrow

Doug · 30 Apr 2007 at 14:09

What resolutions does it let you select? 1360x768 or 1280x768 should be selectable.

Youstolemyname · 30 Apr 2007 at 18:25

Doug said:
What resolutions does it let you select? 1360x768 or 1280x768 should be selectable.

Yeah, 1280x768 is selectable but the quality is poor and it isn't 1280x768p. It also says 'for hd output modes to be selected you need to connect a cable capable of delivering a hd signal' or something like that...

Zico · 30 Apr 2007 at 22:02

Zico said:
According to the UK Philips spec. it includes a DVI to Component cable:

Accessories
Included accessories : Power cord, Quick start guide, Registration card, Remote control, Table top stand, User manual
FM antenna : FM antenna
Cables : DVI-I to YPbPr cable

Click to expand...

Have a look in the box and see if you can find it, then use the Component cable to connect and you should be able to select the HD output.

Have you had a look in the box to find the Component adapter that should have been with the TV??

You should be able to get HD with the Component adapter until you get the correct DVI-I adapter for your VGA cable.