xbox 360 or 8800gtx?

V1N said:
lol.

360 exclusives do not stay on the 360 just as much as the PS3.
PS3 exclusives are just that.
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LOL do you understand what exclusive means? a 360 only exclusive will only be on the 360, like PGR4 for instance, there is also 360 timed based exclusives which you seem to be confusing true exclusive games with.

The OP wants a 360 or a 8800, nothing to do with PS3 but you just can't help yourself,yet you think I need to keep believing? you are the one posting misinformed myths in an attempt to promote something he never asked about, why would you feel the need to do that?

PS3 has about 3 exclusive franchises that won't come to the PC, woohooo massive selling point, and more to the point who would want RFOM on the PC when its nothing special or better than what PC can already do?
 
V1N said:
I'd recommend the 8800GT to save some money... which could be used to upgrade that CPU, as it will hold an 8800 series card back!
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Quoted for Truth. Get the 8800 GT for a much lower price.

True, you need other hardware to make the most of games (CPU, Screen for example) so I am assuming you have these. Also, surely a 360 requires a nice big HDTV to make the most out of it? How much is one of those if you don't have one already?

Also to the people guffawing at us PC gamers who spend the amount of money on one component that they spend on a console, the bad news is that you are going to get increasingly screwed as you pay for multiplayer gaming access (on 360) above your broadband cost(not to mention pay higher prices for the games), you are locked down into MS content distribution for your console games, and you have no options to extend longevity of games through mods etc. All of these things I can do on my (expensive) PC. Obviously there are similar advantages over PC from the console side that we can name (more social with a few joypads? standardised hardware etc.) but my decision was made based on the PC advantages over a console. If I did not spend another penny upgrading my computer, I could probably game on it for at least another ten years, if I did not care about keeping up with technology etc.
 
Mr Men said:
LOL do you understand what exclusive means? a 360 only exclusive will only be on the 360, like PGR4 for instance, there is also 360 timed based exclusives which you seem to be confusing true exclusive games with.

The OP wants a 360 or a 8800, nothing to do with PS3 but you just can't help yourself,yet you think I need to keep believing? you are the one posting misinformed myths in an attempt to promote something he never asked about, why would you feel the need to do that?

PS3 has about 3 exclusive franchises that won't come to the PC, woohooo massive selling point, and more to the point who would want RFOM on the PC when its nothing special or better than what PC can already do?
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Dear God, what's the matter with you?

I looked into the 360, I looked into the PS3. I looked into getting an 8800GTX.

I chose the PS3 at the time, as it offered more to me than the XBOX would, and there were no PC games at that time which justified the £400 for a GTX

Of course I understand what exclusive means, which is why I smile when I see xbox exclusives come to the PC. I've always imagined they meant exclusive to a console.

Anyway, there is no argument. I'm not trying to talk him into doing ANYTHING, just pointing out what I did. The difference in price between the two is largely indifferent now, and the fact that the PS3 also offered bluray movie playback was a plus point, to me.

There is no myth, I'm not lying. The 360 is all well and good, but not worth owning for me, while I also game on the PC, as the games I'd want to play on the XBOX360 mostly are out on the PC too, or come out later. The one title that nearly convinced me to get an XBOX360 a while ago, was Gears of War, an XBOX360 exclusive. Now I have it here sitting beside me, for the PC.

I don't see your need to argue with anybody who suggests anything other than the XBOX being the be all and end all, but I'm simply trying to offer the OP what I did. No influence. The 8800GT has been hard to get hold of, of late, but if you shop around, you can get them for.... I won't say in case of getting suspended, but less than the cost of a console, either console. That money could be put towards a C2D which is also inexpensive, he has the rest, he'd have a top notch gaming rig.

If he'd rather pack in PC gaming altogether, due to boredom, hassle of drivers, whatever, then the XBOX is a good choice. If he wants a PC and a console, I'd recommend the PC and PS3.

It's just my opinion, I don't want to cause an argument. I wasn't trying to diss anybody, or anything, just offer my opinion! No myths, no fanboy, just stating choices!
 
I am not questioning what his decision is, I already stated the 8800 sounds what he needs, so there is no fanboy get a 360 comments from me, but you are the one bringing the PS3 into it, something never asked about, yet you want to say I am the fanboy? oh ok then. And yes you are posting myths and lies in an attempt to make the PS3 seem better than the 360, which again seems strange. So once again 360 exclusives will not be on PC, PS3 exclusives will not be on PC, so you do not see any true 360 exclusives coming to PC or they are not exclusives, so maybe wipe that smile of your face :D

If you did not want to cause an argument then you would have posted a proper response to the OP's question and not turned it into another PS3 v 360 debate with misinformed Sony speak, now have a good day :)
 
Mr Men is awesome isn't he. Add him to block V1N, Seriously. The whole Forum moves up in quality when you do, and you don't miss much.

As for an on topic reply.

Definitely make the choice a GT not a GTX, I said GTX before, but forgot about the marginal performance difference between the 2, VS Cost. :)
 
wannabedamned said:
Mr Men is awesome isn't he. Add him to block V1N, Seriously. The whole Forum moves up in quality when you do, and you don't miss much.

As for an on topic reply.

Definitely make the choice a GT not a GTX, I said GTX before, but forgot about the marginal performance difference between the 2, VS Cost. :)
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Yes, thanks for that.
I'm actually quite stunned at his response, and I wasn't aware that my posting of what I did was starting a conflict.

Oh well, I'll try again.

1. I'm really sorry to the OP for your thread getting so out of hand. The truth is, as you have seen, is that nobody can answer this question for you, as we all have different needs and tastes. You're best off for starters, looking at current, and upcoming games releases, and use that as a base to help make your mind up. For me personally, the PC did go into a bit of a lull, which is why I decided £400 for a GTX in March wasn't worth it, as my 7900 at the time still did the trick. These days however, the 8800GT is a real cracker of a card, it's sub £200, so IF you enjoy gaming on the PC, with the PC controls, and are happy with all the quirks, but fun that come with it, I'd go for one of those... and as I said, use the money saved from the GTX, to put towards a Core2Duo of some kind. You'll have a top gaming rig then.

2. @Mr Men, I really am open minded, and not a fanboy at all. I chose the PS3 over the XBOX360, not because there was any fanboyism, as I hadn't even seen a PS3 yet, but because the list of games coming out for it, plus the bluray drive, were the best for me to get a nice varied gaming experience. Now, if the XBOX exclusives that come out for the PC don't exist, then I shall think myself lucky that I have some here beside me. They were listed as XBOX exclusives at the time, so what can I say?
I am open minded however, and rather than derail this thread any further, then why not start up a new thread, and make notes of why I should have an XBOX360? Best not to derail this thread any more, but honestly, I check the state of affairs with the XBOX from time to time. When the Elite came out, I was interested. I liked the way it looked, HDMI at last (as far as I'm concerned), I had a look at some top40 style lists of games, and decided I still didn't want one. It's by no means ruled out. I don't think the PS3 is the be all and end all, but combined with a gaming PC, it gives me the best all round choice of titles... IMO. So, I'm not being rude, make a thread, list all the plus points against the PC and PS3, and if you make some good points, I'll get one before Christmas... and not having a dig, that's assuming these new models have cured, or at least improved, the reliability problem?

V1N.
 
Can someone else maybe explain to this guy that true 360 exclusives such as the PGR series, or Forza are not on his PC and as such are 360 exclusives, then could someone maybe learn him the industries way of time based exclusives where a game can appear as an exclusive on one console for say 6 months before being released on other formats, as I really think he has some problems in understanding that or accepting anything I say.

p.s I have no desire to tell you why to buy a 360, I do not care, but you seem to care why this guy should not buy a 360 but a PS3.
 
Mr Men said:
Can someone else maybe explain to this guy that true 360 exclusives such as the PGR series, or Forza are not on his PC and as such are 360 exclusives, then could someone maybe learn him the industries way of time based exclusives where a game can appear as an exclusive on one console for say 6 months before being released on other formats, as I really think he has some problems in understanding that or accepting anything I say.

p.s I have no desire to tell you why to buy a 360, I do not care, but you seem to care why this guy should not buy a 360 but a PS3.
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well, just as an example, I'll see if I, and you, can understand this

Gears of War is a tactical third-person shooter video game developed by Epic Games (the creators of the Unreal series) using Unreal Engine 3.0 technology and published by Microsoft Game Studios. It was released for the Xbox 360 as an exclusive title on November 7, 2006 in select stores in the United States, and later broadly released in major U.S. retailers on November 12, 2006. The game was released on November 17, 2006 in Europe outside of Germany, where Microsoft Game Studios did not publish the game after it was denied a rating.[3] A Limited Collector's Edition was also released, which included a disc of bonus content and an art book titled Destroyed Beauty that detailed much of the game's back-story.

At E3 2007 Microsoft confirmed the persistent rumor that Gears of War would be ported over to Windows. The game is a Games for Windows title, and was shipped on November 6, 2007.[7][2] A Mac OS X release was confirmed by Epic's Mark Rein, speaking on a July 14, 2007 episode of Game Head.[8]
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My bold for emphasis.

These games aren't released as timed exclusives. They're released as exclusives. Then later, when they've shifted as many consoles as possible, they then open it up to the PC. Not JUST for GOW.

As I said, I'm sure when they say exclusive, the seem to mean CONSOLE exclusive, in that it won't be coming out for PS3/Wii/C64.

V1N.

EDIT: and by the way, I realise all this really doesn't matter in the grand scale of things, but you just can't go around making stuff up, and rubbishing what other people say.
 
time based exclusive game, yes, not a true exclusive game, can you understand the difference between these 2 yet? When GOW was released it was a timed based 360 exclusive as the 360 was the only format to have it, how hard is that to understand?

I give up though, seems you are unwilling or unable to see the difference.
 
I see where you're coming from V1N, You have exclusives on 360.

That are said to be exclusive. No mention of time. No mention of expanding the platforms the game was available on.

But then, Due to microsoft owning the rights, they expand the platform to PC. Why? be cause they own the rights, and have the right to do so.

So If you own a PS3 and a PC, Chances are you'll get to play all games. At some time or another. Even if it means waiting longer for the 360 games to reach PC.

So if you buy a 360 or a PC, You'll more than definitely not see certain games, Due to Sony owning the rights to those games and not microsoft.
 
Mr Men said:
time based exclusive game, yes, not a true exclusive game, can you understand the difference between these 2 yet? When GOW was released it was a timed based 360 exclusive as the 360 was the only format to have it, how hard is that to understand?

I give up though, seems you are unwilling or unable to see the difference.
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Sorry, yes, I clearly missed the part where it was listed as a TIME based exclusive.

Oh, hang on, it wasn't, it says "was released for the Xbox 360 as an exclusive title" which it was, at the time.

If they'd said at the time, this is a timed exclusive, then many people who owned PCs, wouldn't have gone out and bought Xboxes to play it on. I nearly bought one myself, seeing as it was an exclusive. If they'd said timed, I'd not have given it that second thought, and would've just waited for the PC version.

So, it's plainly clear that I know what a timed exclusive is. I know what an exclusive is. Which is why I said ages ago, that PS3 exclusives stay on the PS3, and Xbox ones seem to make their way to the PC too, therefore leading me to think that when they state Xbox Exclusive (note, without the word TIMED in there) they seem to mean Console Exclusive.

I tell you what, Son, when you grow up, you should be a politician, you seem to have a natural talent for spin.

wannabedamned said:
Mr Men is awesome isn't he. Add him to block V1N, Seriously. The whole Forum moves up in quality when you do, and you don't miss much.
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I'm sorry mate. I should've listened to you ages ago.

Done now.

V1N.
 
LOL so you still can't work it out, PS3 had no more exclusives than 360, so keep spreading your myth all you like, oh wait you will run away and hide when someone points out the truth, cheerio :D
 
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