Xbox 360 to support 1080p! software patch

DaveyD · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:11

JUMPURS said:
Yeah it is, as far as i know HDMI is digital and component is Analogue.
Also HDMI carries sound through it

Yup, technically HDMI should give the best picture quality and is capable of more than component. And you're right, HDMI is digital, Component only analogue.

rp2000 · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:22

Don't know what all the fuss is about. All the patch will do is allow the 360 to scale (stretch) the image to 1080P. You can't add the extra lines of detail as they don't exist as the games are natively 720P.

The difference with the PS3 is that some games will natively support 1080P so they will, in theory still look better as they have more detail in them.

I think people are maybe confusing upscaling and upsampling. The former is stretching images, the latter is post processing the images, which is what some of these fancy DVD players do. I do not expect DVDs to look any better when shown at 1080P, if anything they look worse, unless you post process the image.

I'm no expert on this HD res malarky, so am happy to be corrected if I have interpreted the information incorrectly.

rp2000

Whappers · 20 Sep 2006 at 12:49

Hold on.... Let me get this straight, so with this new software upgrade I can play my DVDs in 1080p theoretically. But is this possible through the Xbox 360's Built in DVD Drive or the External HD-DVD Drive or even both?

If it'll upscale my DVDs to 1080p using the built in DVD Drive with this new software upgrade then thats me sold on the Xbox 360 and I'll 100% be getting one this christmas.

Thanks.

Whappers.

dazsly · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:14

Whappers said:
Hold on.... Let me get this straight, so with this new software upgrade I can play my DVDs in 1080p theoretically. But is this possible through the Xbox 360's Built in DVD Drive or the External HD-DVD Drive or even both?

If it'll upscale my DVDs to 1080p using the built in DVD Drive with this new software upgrade then thats me sold on the Xbox 360 and I'll 100% be getting one this christmas.

Thanks.

Whappers.

You can upscale already via vga cable to 720p so I would think yes you will be able to upscale via componant to 1080p.

Rhys · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:15

you'll be able to enjoy your existing Xbox 360 games at the new resolution.

From the OP.

I imagine this would apply to DVD films too ?

melchy · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:17

dazsly said:
You can upscale already via vga cable to 720p so I would think yes you will be able to upscale via componant to 1080p.

I think it actually upscales to any of the VGA resolutions, not just 720p.

rayb74 · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:21

Has anyone on these forums got a 1080p TV ?

Raikiri · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:39

rp2000 said:
Don't know what all the fuss is about. All the patch will do is allow the 360 to scale (stretch) the image to 1080P. You can't add the extra lines of detail as they don't exist as the games are natively 720P.

The difference with the PS3 is that some games will natively support 1080P so they will, in theory still look better as they have more detail in them.

The advantage of this patch though is that it allows future games to be developed with 1080p as a natively supported resolution and it will save me £80 on the toshiba upscaling DVD player \o/ woot

rayb74 said:
Has anyone on these forums got a 1080p TV ?

Couple do afaik but a fair few have 24inch monitors which support the res and 1080p TVs are gradually getting cheaper.

DaveyD · 20 Sep 2006 at 13:41

rayb74 said:
Has anyone on these forums got a 1080p TV ?

Probably 1 or 2%, if that.

kumar101 · 21 Sep 2006 at 20:48

Hope MS is not going to try and deceive people with this its NOT true HD just upscaling.

pinkacidbootson · 21 Sep 2006 at 21:33

VP of Digital Media at Microsoft Confirms NO 1080p HD-DVD or DVD over Component

For component, you get gaming up to 1080p, and 1080i for HD DVD. DVD only works at 480p over this connection. The latter two are due to restrictions in DVD CCA and AACS rules for DVD and HD DVD playback respectively.

1080p is supported over VGA for DVD, HD DVD and gaming output. And yes, AACS does allow 1080p over VGA (classified under authorized "computer monitor outputs").

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8478750&&#post8478750

I wonder if this will be true for the 20GB PS3 aswell?

Zico · 21 Sep 2006 at 22:16

I thought I would pop in and mention that the next Xbox 360 update is due early November (developers are working on things now to finalise it for a November release).

I would guess that that the update will be out before the HD-DVD drive hit's the shelves. There were a few pictures floating around the net that were showing some of the new dashboard screens (but nothing was mentioned of just what fixes/additions were being introduced).

Kohaashi · 21 Sep 2006 at 22:31

Zico said:
I thought I would pop in and mention that the next Xbox 360 update is due early November (developers are working on things now to finalise it for a November release).

I would guess that that the update will be out before the HD-DVD drive hit's the shelves. There were a few pictures floating around the net that were showing some of the new dashboard screens (but nothing was mentioned of just what fixes/additions were being introduced).

Nice

wonder if the HD-DVD drive will have a shiney tray like the premium or one like the core. lol

NokkonWud · 22 Sep 2006 at 00:25

DaveyD said:
Yup, technically HDMI should give the best picture quality and is capable of more than component. And you're right, HDMI is digital, Component only analogue.

However, in many comparisons HDMI has been coming out worse than Component.

I realise of course HDMI is for the future and will only get better.

FrankJH · 22 Sep 2006 at 08:20

DaveyD said:
Probably 1 or 2%, if that.

I think its more likely 1 or 2 lol (as percentage wise would be in the 10's -100's)

Wonder if MS will work it so that to get the patch working you HAVE to have the HD-DVD drive attached...........

Wyrdo · 22 Sep 2006 at 09:37

FrankJH said:
I think its more likely 1 or 2 lol (as percentage wise would be in the 10's -100's)

Wonder if MS will work it so that to get the patch working you HAVE to have the HD-DVD drive attached...........

I was thinking the same. Quite a few of us have monitors that can do 1080p fine but I don't think there are more than a few people on here with 1080p capable TV's.

Dark_Angel · 22 Sep 2006 at 12:38

wyrdo said:
I was thinking the same. Quite a few of us have monitors that can do 1080p fine but I don't think there are more than a few people on here with 1080p capable TV's.

I wonder if they will add extra resolutions for those using VGA.

Like 1680x1050 and 1920x1200?

FrankJH · 22 Sep 2006 at 14:03

wyrdo said:
I was thinking the same. Quite a few of us have monitors that can do 1080p fine but I don't think there are more than a few people on here with 1080p capable TV's.

I know these dell 2407's are fabulous and I cant wait to watch a 1080p movie on it ( I have the Hd version of T2 on dvd import, but not sure I want to fiddle around with region problems on my dvd hardware at present)

Kreeeee · 22 Sep 2006 at 14:18