**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Yeah I love the 360 pad, obviously I've not tried the new one but the less rounded edges make it hard to understand how it will be more comfortable. Even the bump in the battery pack on the 360 pad make it feel like you really have a grip on it. A shame you can't use the 360 pad on the new one, even if it was just for spares. :)

Listening to giantbomb they said there is nothing in it pad wise this time. I certainly wouldn't dismiss the ps4 on pad this time.

The razer sabretooth has less round edges and feels more comfortable to use than a 360 pad, also it has no battery pack on the back and it feels nicer imo.
 
Who knows what to make of it all, apparently according the the NeoGAF thread all the articles about it have taken the thread from NeoGAF as the source.

By the way, the "reporting" in this topic is hilarious. I found articles that report the story by citing other websites which eventually got all their information from this thread. However, none of them was able to quote the original source. And those articles already claim that Marc Diana said that "it is a gamechanger"… which was actually written by W!ICKED in this thread.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps4-news/614.html

Just incredible.

I can't help but think it's a whole load of misinformation, especially throwing in the above I posted.
 
This is ridiculous.

article on NeoGAF said:
Although both upcoming game consoles Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on AMD hardware, only PlayStation 4 incorporates hUMA [Heterogeneous Uniform Memory Access] for supporting a shared memory space. This was explained by AMD's Senior Product Marketing Manager Marc Diana...

And then:
The Verge said:
...we spoke to AMD and it's actually true. The AMD chips inside the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One take advantage of something called Heterogeneous Unified Memory Access (HUMA)...Diana likened it to driving to the corner store to pick up some milk, instead of driving from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

So either AMD themselves don't know, or they've been mis-quoted.

Anyone else a bit tired of seeing stuff like Reddit, NeoGAF, Twitter etc cited as reliable sources in stuff? Modern journalism must be bloody easy if it just means trawling social media until you get the info you need.

Nearly three more months of this nonsense to get through too.
 
You think it will stop at launch? LOL.

You have to seriously wonder don't you, two quotes from the same person months apart saying the exact opposite, was he mis-quoted in the latest one or the first one?

They most likely both use HUMA, I don't understand why AMD would do it for one and not the other.

Neither do I, they are both new designs so why on earth would it be on one and not the other, hell in the interview earlier he says they both have it.
 
They most likely both use HUMA, I don't understand why AMD would do it for one and not the other.

You think it will stop at launch? LOL.

You have to seriously wonder don't you, two quotes from the same person months apart saying the exact opposite, was he mis-quoted in the latest one or the first one?



Neither do I, they are both new designs so why on earth would it be on one and not the other, hell in the interview earlier he says they both have it.
The original reason i saw mentioned was the ESRAM (again, it gets blamed for everything :p)
 
I'd wager that they both have it. If they're trying to "normalise" the architecture and hardware across the consoles to make ports/multi-platform titles easier to program for both sides, then I can't see giving only one of them HUMA helping that.
 
You think it will stop at launch? LOL.

Sadly not, but at least by November the actual machines will be in journalists' hands and they can talk about the actual differences in spec, performance, visuals etc rather than trying to make wild guesses seemingly based on an abundance of misinformation.

The only thing that really matters anyway is the difference between the current gen and the next one. The differences between the two consoles themselves are likely to be fairly minor in comparison (or so you'd hope).
 
Whats your point? I didn't say to buy it just making the comparison of less rounded edges.

My point was exactly what I said, just saying it's a shame it costs over £60 because it actually looks like a nice controller. If I didn't play FIFA I'd probably buy it.

Probably because we have no idea if the CPU has direct access to the ESRAM which it would need to be a hUMA compatible system.

That's what we're trying to say though, why wouldn't AMD give it direct access?
 
My point was exactly what I said, just saying it's a shame it costs over £60 because it actually looks like a nice controller. If I didn't play FIFA I'd probably buy it.

Considering how arsey people are over their controllers on here you'd think they wouldn't mind an extra few spawn on a better one :p
 
So the source for the Xbox one not having huma, and the PS4 having it, it's a german magazine who quoted AMD Marketing manager Marc Diana

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2051214/ps4_performance_better_than_xbox_one.html

You can get original translated article here

http://translate.google.com/transla...et-Unified-Memory-Xbox-One-nicht-1939716.html

Want to know where this gets funny? The source for them both having it linked above is the Verge

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4452488/amd-sparks-x86-transition-for-next-gen-game-consoles

Who are also quoting Marc Dianna at AMD. Funny how some twist peoples words to fit their own agenda.

Who knows exactly what Marc said to people at gamesconn. But most of the news about PS4 having huma seems to have come from that german article. But when the verge spoke to him, they got the impression both consoles had it. Will be interested to see how this pans out.
 
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My point was exactly what I said, just saying it's a shame it costs over £60 because it actually looks like a nice controller. If I didn't play FIFA I'd probably buy it.



That's what we're trying to say though, why wouldn't AMD give it direct access?

It's not a case of AMD deciding to give them access or not, it's more of a case of why the eSRAM is there and what it does. From what i've read it's essentially extra buffer for the GPU to make up for the slow speeds of the RAM compared to normal video memory. The DDR3 is perfectkly suited for the CPU though so it will access the system memory without needed to go anywhere near the eSRAM. That's how I though it worked anyway, I could be completely wrong :p
 
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