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almoststew1990

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I'm planning a 'cheap' second hand ITX build- a h100/60i on a sandy i7. I haven't really considered xeon cpus until now but I believe they're very similar to the i7 of the same generation and share the same socket?

What xeons should I be looked at for a xeon Sandy 4c/8t 1155 Cpu?

Finally do you know of any xeons that are notably cheaper than their i7 equivalent these days?
 
As for the second part of your post, a Xeon E3-1230 (3.2 GHz) recently went for $40 on ebay! £70-120 seems to be the norm though.

Martini1991 said:
Why not just get a Xeon 1230 V2? It's the Ivybridge Xeon, it's an i7 at like 170 quid.
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He said Sandy specifically so perhaps he's got a reason to stick with the older iteration.
 
I can't imagine any reason not to get the Ivy, it'll work with any board the Sandy does, while being better :p

I can't ever imagine a reason you'd ever get an older iteration, unless you were concerned about compatibility ; Which is a none issue.
 
Sandy was just where I expected my budget to be, but if the ivy one comes in at a similar cost, I would consider the ivy one.

I was basically hoping that as xeons aren't as well known as i7s, they'd be cheaper to purchase second hand. It seems this might be the case. I just want i7 performance on the cheap :D
 
joeyjojo said:
Xeon E3-1230 (3.2 GHz) recently went for $40 on ebay! £70-120 seems to be the norm though.
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might have been an error in price and the buyer refunded. you'd never find out. 40 is way too low imho.

I got both my 1230v2 for about $160 shipped each. the second one was part of a 30 unit batch, some dude bought remaining 29 for 150 each. the listing lasted like 4 hours max.
 
almoststew1990 said:
I was basically hoping that as xeons aren't as well known as i7s, they'd be cheaper to purchase second hand. It seems this might be the case. I just want i7 performance on the cheap :D
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Don't forget, the Xeons aren't upward multi unlocked. The difference hyperthreading* gives is a lot less than you can get from overclocking a K series i5.

*This is the main practical difference - you'd know if you need the other Xeon features (ECC memory, virtualisation, etc.).
 
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joeyjojo said:
Don't forget, the Xeons aren't upward multi unlocked. The difference hyperthreading* gives is a lot less than you can get from overclocking a K series i5.
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games - possibly, although the actual difference in fps will be minimal (say 4670K clocked at 4.3 vs stock Xeon 1230v3)
productivity sw that can utilize all threads - absolutely 100% wrong
 
Running a Xeon 1230v2 atm. It's a brilliant CPU, max temp is around 36c under load with an Antec Kuhler 920. Doesn't bottleneck a pair of GTX 780Ti's in SLI. Rock solid stable system. I only really overclocked for benching in the past, always run CPU @ stock speed when gaming anyway as I prefer stability over a few potential extra fps.

If you aren't to fussed about overclocking the Xeon's are best value for money CPU's. The Xeon 1230v2's performance at only 69w is pretty awesome tbh. Brand new around £170 now.

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kefan77 said:
games - possibly, although the actual difference in fps will be minimal (say 4670K clocked at 4.3 vs stock Xeon 1230v3)
productivity sw that can utilize all threads - absolutely 100% wrong
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In the best case, hyperthreading with a slowish IO system can give a 25% improvement (e.g. x264 off a mechanical HDD). But in most cases it's a lot less. Especially as you say in gaming (a few % max).

A 25% overclock on a -K CPU is easy, so that's the faster option most of the time.
 
Used to have a 1230 v2 myself. Was a crackin little chip and undervolted well. From what I can remember I had it stable at stock clocks with less than 1v.

I bought mine new OEM for £160, played with it for before changing build plans.

Was able to get an extra 7% or so out of the BCLK which wasn't much but was keen to try, as mentioned above the multi is locked. No limited unlock like the 2600 and 3770 non k versions.

One thing worth mentioning is the 1230 V2 doesn't have a IGPU. Not sure what you're going to be using it for but you'll need a dedicated graphics card.
 
joeyjojo said:
Don't forget, the Xeons aren't upward multi unlocked. The difference hyperthreading* gives is a lot less than you can get from overclocking a K series i5.

*This is the main practical difference - you'd know if you need the other Xeon features (ECC memory, virtualisation, etc.).
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Is ECC memory a requirement or does the xeons support 'normal desktop' RAM as well?
 
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