XP OEM Help

4ndy89

4ndy89

4ndy89

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Hi guys,

Im off to stoke on Tuesday to pick up my new bits, I'm just wondering whether any of you have been able to blag a new activation key from microsoft with a complete change of hardware, if so, How?

Thanks
Andy
 
I have once - I used my XP CD on my first build - I then reinstalled XP and the code wouldn't activate. I just rang them and they gave me a 24 digit code (I think) and it was activated :)
 
i got a new activation key from MS, i just phoned up and stated that i had upgraded parts of my pc and had to format, they then gave me a nice shiney activation key, you do however need an official cd key for this
 
I have an original copy of XP Home OEM.

and i am going from

amd athlon xp 3200
PC Chips Motherboard DDR
1GB DDR Ram
AGP 7800GS (Limited Edition 7900)

while keeping the Hard Drives for a while with the following

E6420
Asus P5N-E
2 Gb Crucial Ballistics 6400
8800 320mb

Anyway, So if i make the call and make an excuse along the lines of

"Some old hardware stopped working and i got it fixed, but i think some parts were changed"

Will i get away with it, I'm only doing it so I can wait for Vista to get to an acceptable standard and price :)

Thanks
Andy
 
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4ndy89 said:
Will i get away with it, I'm only doing it so I can wait for Vista to get to an acceptable standard and price :)

Thanks
Andy
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Interesting how people justify what essentially is fraud.

Burnsy
 
burnsy2023 said:
Interesting how people justify what essentially is fraud.

Burnsy
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You want the definition of fraud, look up the price of a retail box copy of XP Pro.

<link removed> - circa £234.98 inc VAT !!!http://www.******.com/UK/product/65801

It'd be more interesting just how Microsoft justify that.

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Richard
 
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I have installed XP OEM PRO on my laptop first, then built up my pc and put it on there (Yes, i wiped it off my laptop and put home back on). Had to phone them and they activated it for me. 2 completely different systems.
 
4ndy89 said:
I have an original copy of XP Home OEM.

and i am going from

amd athlon xp 3200
PC Chips Motherboard DDR
1GB DDR Ram
AGP 7800GS (Limited Edition 7900)

while keeping the Hard Drives for a while with the following

E6420
Asus P5N-E
2 Gb Crucial Ballistics 6400
8800 320mb

Anyway, So if i make the call and make an excuse along the lines of

"Some old hardware stopped working and i got it fixed, but i think some parts were changed"

Will i get away with it, I'm only doing it so I can wait for Vista to get to an acceptable standard and price :)

Thanks
Andy
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Legalities and moral issues aside, yes it will work is the simple answer. Its an automated press 1 2 3 system.
 
4ndy89 said:
I have an original copy of XP Home OEM.

and i am going from

amd athlon xp 3200
PC Chips Motherboard DDR
1GB DDR Ram
AGP 7800GS (Limited Edition 7900)

while keeping the Hard Drives for a while with the following

E6420
Asus P5N-E
2 Gb Crucial Ballistics 6400
8800 320mb

Anyway, So if i make the call and make an excuse along the lines of

"Some old hardware stopped working and i got it fixed, but i think some parts were changed"

Will i get away with it, I'm only doing it so I can wait for Vista to get to an acceptable standard and price :)

Thanks
Andy
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MS will activate u but you'll be unlicensed....

simple as that.
 
richardbirks said:
You want the definition of fraud, look up the price of a retail box copy of XP Pro.

It'd be more interesting just how Microsoft justify that.

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Richard
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I'd remove that competitor link buddy.

Thanks for all your help everyone, can't wait to get this new computer sorted.
 
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Don't quote him then.

And despite burnzy's lack of subtlety he is absolutely correct in that you are breaking the law.
 
gareth170 said:
MS will activate u but you'll be unlicensed....

simple as that.
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If you'd have done the upgrades incrementally, even with an OEM copy of XP Pro, you'd be fine as the activation database files would have been updated each time a component changed.

Of course, in this case, you can't upgrade incrementally, since you're moving to components that aren't compatible with your original computer.

That said you could argue, that if the case, PSU, hard drives and any other auxillary components haven't changed, and the OEM sticker is on the case and you have no intention of trying to activate on two computers then you are re-activating on what is effectively your orginal computer.

Trying to argue that because it's OEM you can't upgrade your motherboard and CPU is like trying to split hairs that are already split; let those nice employees at Microsoft make that call. If you ring up and say: I upgraded my motherboard/CPU and I'd like to reactivate, you'll almost certainly find that they'll activate you over the phone.

If Microsoft took a course in plain english, we wouldn't have any of this retail/oem/corporate/education license nonsense. When you distill it right down it should be as simple as: one license, one computer. Then anyone could understand the EULA, rather than just the several idiot lawyers it took to write it.

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Richard.
 
richardbirks said:
If you'd have done the upgrades incrementally, even with an OEM copy of XP Pro, you'd be fine as the activation database files would have been updated each time a component changed.

Of course, in this case, you can't upgrade incrementally, since you're moving to components that aren't compatible with your original computer.

That said you could argue, that if the case, PSU, hard drives and any other auxillary components haven't changed, and the OEM sticker is on the case and you have no intention of trying to activate on two computers then you are re-activating on what is effectively your orginal computer.

Trying to argue that because it's OEM you can't upgrade your motherboard and CPU is like trying to split hairs that are already split; let those nice employees at Microsoft make that call. If you ring up and say: I upgraded my motherboard/CPU and I'd like to reactivate, you'll almost certainly find that they'll activate you over the phone.

If Microsoft took a course in plain english, we wouldn't have any of this retail/oem/corporate/education license nonsense. When you distill it right down it should be as simple as: one license, one computer. Then anyone could understand the EULA, rather than just the several idiot lawyers it took to write it.

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Richard.
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1. upgradeing the cpu is fine.

2. if your saying its ok to use the same oem license on a different motherboard then whats the point of retail??
 
richardbirks said:
If Microsoft took a course in plain english, we wouldn't have any of this retail/oem/corporate/education license nonsense. When you distill it right down it should be as simple as: one license, one computer. Then anyone could understand the EULA, rather than just the several idiot lawyers it took to write it.
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Unfortunatly it's less to do with plain English, it's more to do with to the OP being happy to be dishonest.

The post was in effect, "I know I shouldn't be able to get away with this, I'm happy to run an unlicensed copy of XP but what would be the best thing to say on the phone to mislead MS into giving me an activation code".

Of course if in doubt MS issue the code prefering to trust people rather than accidentaly deny an activation in a genuine case.

The OP wanted check how best to take advantage of that to do something dishonest, which in effect deprives companies linke OCUK of the revenue from a legaly licesned copy of XP. Burnsey and others advised him and got a sarcy answer for their troubles.
 
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