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Yet Another Question on the Agp 1950pro

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Howdy everyone

Im in the same boat as quite a lot of people it seems when it comes to buying the 1950pro agp card.

My specs are:
Amd 3000+ (2Ghz)
1gig ddr 3200
ati radeon 9800pro 128mb
creative soundblaster x-fi
650W coolermaster psu
19' viewsonic VX922

Now the motherboard i got can only support up to a 3400+ so i aint gona bother upgrading that as id rather make the jump to pci express at some point.

I would call myself a gamer and im now at the stage where i cant play the new games without goin mad as i have to lower the graphics or play major lag style.

Would i see much of a performance increase from the 9800pro on that processor? i bought the warhammer mark of chaos game and in the larger levels its basically unplayable due to the low frame rates. would the 1950pro make this playable at least? my tft can only suppost up to 1280x 1024 so im quite happy at lower resolutions.

Any help would be appreciated
 
In your case it would help. You have a fairly grunty pc for an AGP based one, which still doesnt have a bad CPU. The card is about 3/4x more powerful than a 9800Pro though, so if you weigh out your options, and for now, agp til next rebuild seems the best option, then I'd say go for it. If you had a P4, or AMD XP+ I'd say upgrade, but as you have an amd64 3000+, I'd say its up to you based on cost/what you can do. That card IS a lot more powerful though, and Mark of Chaos has some exceedingly high system reqs for a strat title.

Lobbing in some more RAM might help for games like that too, theres usually a lot of textures etc.
 
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:) good stuff, just what i wanted to hear, im planning on a major build when vista is out and dx10 has been around a while. i was lookin for a card to tide me over till then and this seemed the best option.

Also anyone know of a specific day it is going to be in stock?end of nov is a bit vague lol, iv bought splinter cell double agent and im dying to play it, but i need a card with shader model 3 :(
 
From what I've heard SC3 isnt too great on PC, so dont pin your hopes, theres other games you can get some SM3 niceness out of though, like FEAR, or Oblivion (HDR+AA is hard on a system, but it looks v.nice) :)
 
You could save yourself some money and go for the 7600GT. It overclocks very nicely and plays all new games adequately. I have yet to see a major slowdown at 1280x1024 even with oblivion pretty much maxed.

The 1950 is a slightly faster card but over £40 more. You could save that up towards your PCI-E upgrade in the future. The 7600GT is definitely able to play anything you throw at it atleast until Crysis and even then I'm hoping it will get better then medium settings on it. ;)
 
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You could save yourself some money and go for the 7600GT. It overclocks very nicely and plays all new games adequately. I have yet to see a major slowdown at 1280x1024 even with oblivion pretty much maxed.

The 1950 is a slightly faster card but over £40 more. You could save that up towards your PCI-E upgrade in the future. The 7600GT is definitely able to play anything you throw at it atleast until Crysis and even then I'm hoping it will get better then medium settings on it. ;)

The 1950 beats the 7600 significantly on the benchmarks I've seen. In more complicated games, like Oblivion with high settings, the difference between 15fps and 25fps (EXAMPLE FIGURE) could be very significant to your enjoyment of the game.

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These are included from different sites. As you can see, dependant on the game, the X1950 can be a lot faster. An average of 39fps in BF2, with a 7600GT, compared to 64fps average with a x1950pro. Thats gonna seem a lot smoother on average!
 
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good stuff, im glad iv bought it now, i enjoyed oblivion but got fed up with low frame rates everywhere, i cant bring myself to put graphics settings to low and have low resolutions, id rather play the game while it looks good

Anyway thanks for the info, i just have to sit it out now and wait for it to get delivered :(
 
hopefully it'll be released soon, has anyone seen any reviews of these agp cards anywhere yet? i think there's atleast three manufacturers doing them, gecube, powercolor (massive silent accelero fan) and visiontek so far. i would have thought they'd be on the review sites by now?
 
Provided your system is decent, they should see similar performance, if the rest of your system can keep up. They're basically the pci-e card with a bridge chip afaik, so they're roughly the same performance, bar a slight drop.
 
I tried overclocking when i got it, my board is an Asus K8V-X and processor AMD (Newcastle) Athlon 64bit 3000+

Im sure i tried when i built the pc but i couldnt due to not being able to lock something. i cant really remember but i wanted to adjust one part but all parts were adjusted so i couldnt overclock.

I could be wrong though as iv never overclocked before. Has anyone got this combo of board and cpu and managed an oc?
 
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