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Yorkfield delay?

waso_dude said:
really really hope they don't have a massive delay i want a qx9450 asap :D
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No such thing. Presume you mean a Q9450?

My plan was to stick with dual-core until the Penryn's arrived and then go quad, but I now have three reasons not to bother:

1. Aforementioned delays
2. Persistent rumours that they'll command a price-premium as Intel have no competition
3. The lack of a non-extreme with a decent multiplier means you'll need stupid bus speeds to get the 3.6-4Ghz we know they're capable of.
 
This is a shame, but makes me less unhappy about just ordering my new pc parts when I get paid next week. If the performance or overclocking difference is that amazing over conroe, I'll just sell my Q6600 if the performance difference is big enough, should still be able to get about ~£100 or so. There's also the fact that the Q6600 at least for now is likely to be cheaper than an equivalent Penryn at release, and I can happily use PC6400 RAM, whereas Penryn are looking to require more capability at higher FSB, given the multipliers.
I'd rather have a 3.6Ghz Q6600 if I can get mine to that, than an equivalent penryn stuck at 3Ghz, as even with SSE4 and marginal performance improvements, the Q6600 is gonna be faster, its only when it comes to heat and power demands come in that the penryn based core would initially see me benefits.
 
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8igdave said:
Also i still dont see the big fasinnation with these. Games arn't cpu limited at the moment if you have a q6600 clocked to 3.5ghz or even just 3ghz its your graphics card that gona be holding you back. Why do you need these new things?
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Encoding, scientific simulations?

Benchmarks. :p
 
From what I have read the news is a little worse.

Initially Intel planned to roll-out its code-named Wolfdale and Yorkfield microprocessors that are projected to be marketed under Intel Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme brand-names on the 10th of January, 2008. But the plans have changed and, according to a news-story at HKEPC web-site, Intel will only be able to release dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo 8000-series (Wolfdale) processors in February, while Intel Core 2 Quad 9000-series (Yorkfield) will only see the light of the day in February or March.
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I'll get a cheap G0 in the meantime. I cannot wait another 2 months. :(
 
Its now on wikipedia.

Wolfdale and Yorkfield

Wolfdale will be the desktop version of Penryn, with two cores sharing 6 MB of level-two (L2) cache. Yorkfield will feature a dual-die quad core design with two unified 6 MB L2 caches resulting in a total amount of 12 MB L2-Cache. They are also expected to feature 1333 MHz FSB and be compatible with the Bearlake[42] chipset. These processors are expected to become available in early 2008, and the platform will support DDR3 and have a 1333 MHz FSB.
The Wolfdale and Yorkfield CPUs are to be released in January 2008. However, a bug was discovered in the Yorkfield, delaying its release to February or March 2008.[43] At the Intel Developer Forum 2007, a Yorkfield processor was compared with a Kentsfield processor.[44][45]
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easyrider said:
Though you had a G0?
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I did, and a mobo, and ram, and a gtx etc etc. All sold in preperation of new rig. I can't complain about the G0 sale as I made a tidy profit on that chip:D. I guess I will have to get a cheap cpu now until the wolfdales are out to tide me over.
 
I've been planning on building a new computer for a couple of months now. However have been waiting for the new 45nm processors to do this. Do you think its worth waiting another couple of months for them to come out or get a Q6600 G0 now?
 
I have a few little things to say on this issue, first thing is regarding posts asking if there is a problem with the chips then the fix could let them work on 680i models. There is no problem with the chips working on 680i's in my opinion but the chiups have been purposly designed not to work, another bullying technique by Intel to try and force nvidia to share SLi technology with them for there chipsets.

Secondly, "the chips randomlly shut down", great excuse Intel, truth there is tht there is no problem with the chips. This is backed up by the NO problem of the QX9650 which is the same Penryn technology.

How many people in this thread have now said they will get an 6600 or they have now swayed to the 6600?

Now the fun bit, how many peope have heared the MASSIVE problems AMD are having getting the Phenoms to work?

Now put yourself in Intels head, loads of people now will buy the 6600 at the 150 mark instead of waiting for it to drop, there is no competition by AMD so WHY do they need to release the quads, they have no need.

Wait untill Feb/March when AMD may have something to release and then bung the Penryn Quads out and make much more money than they would by releasing them now.
 
It's nothing to do with sharing SLI technology, but licensing SLI. I have to say I haven't had any issues with my QX chip, in fact I haven't heard of any reported problems. It could be Intel QA being over cautious, it could be Intel trying to work something out with Nvidia and not being forthcoming. Who knows, we certainly will never know the full story.

I can see the Q6600 going up in price, not down as production and supply slows. This is after all a move from 65nm to 45nm with "small" gains in performance to boot.

Fact is that Intel are leading the CPU race again and its purely a marketing battle between Intel and AMD just now as feable as it may be.
 
Actually, there appears to be a more practical reason behind the delay, according to reports. Sources at Taiwan motherboard manufacturers are citing problems with the front-side bus (FSB) on certain boards that would use the Yorkfield non-Extreme processors. More specifically, mass-market four-layer boards, such as some P35-based boards, may have "noise" and stability issues, according to PC Watch which cited Taiwan motherboard vendors.
The Intel fix may take one to two months, according to reports.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=22164

http://www.x86watch.com/news/intel-first-quarter-launch-197.html
 
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