Young Men Playing Video Games Instead Of Finding Jobs

Chris Wilson said:
Much of the UK market housing shortage is immigration driven, yet youngsters seem the most vocal in supporting unregulated immigration, or extraordinarily generous immigration laws.
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That is a blatant falsehood. It simply is not true. Ten seconds on google will tell you that most immigrants RENT housing in the private sector.

The housing crisis is squarely the cause of 40 years of government mismanagement: the buy-to-let fiasco, selling off council housing stock, a lack of new houses being built, etc.

It's grand if you were able to by a house between 1960-2000 - should have made an absolute killing. For anyone else unlucky enough to trying to buy now, tough luck.
 
its all of those things, selling off council housing was a big mistake but if immigrants rent then someone has to buy the property for them to rent
 
Rotty said:
it may be bad in some areas but in a lot it isn't

and if I have had any benefits or luck I would like to know what they are
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Never had a job promotion?
Never been sacked or made redundant?
Never had an inheritance?
I'd be interested in knowing when you purchased your house too?

Also what areas is it not bad in? Want to live in London or the South West or surrounding areas... jog on. Want to live in the North East... enjoy negative equity. Want to live in Wales... enjoy your employment prospects.

About the only place that has any sense of normality is the North West where you can still get something at a decent price, though still anywhere from 10 - 100 times the price that you would have paid in the 60's through to the late 90's.
 
Rotty said:
its all of those things, selling off council housing was a big mistake but if immigrants rent then someone has to buy the property for them to rent
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Precisely. And a rental property has a greater likelihood of being empty for a period. Thus it is less efficient in terms of providing accommodation.
 
Rotty said:
its all of those things, selling off council housing was a big mistake but if immigrants rent then someone has to buy the property for them to rent
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That doesn't even make sense as an argument. Of course someone has to buy the property... that is overwhelmingly folk in their 40's - 60's who benefited from an era where they were able to do that.

10 seconds on Google people... come on. Stop taking your beliefs direct from the Daily Mail and only the DM.
 
I like how people think working hard = wealthy. Sure you're more likely to be wealthy if you work hard but there are also plenty of wealthy people who have done f all and there are plenty of people working flat out for sod all in return.

I can't remember the last time a game sucked me in (perhaps FFVII) but I can't blame the younger generation for being disillusioned, the system doesn't exactly sell itself well. At least it used to be work all your life in the hope of one day owning your own property then look forward to selling it in a few years time to pay for your care, now its more work hard all your life for ever decreasing amounts of money to pay for someone else's property which they will sell to cover the costs of their own care while you rot away with the possibility of a carer popping in to see you for 10 minutes every few days.

Plus everything is so damned depressing now, no one is telling the younger generation things are going to get better. Its the complete opposite with stories of how they should expect less than their parents generation and probably going to die younger but don't worry you probably won't live long enough anyway as climate change / ebola / bird flu / Russia / China / Trump / Brexit / Aliens / Robots will have killed everyone.
 
Hellsmk2 said:
Never had a job promotion?
Never been sacked or made redundant? yes
Never had an inheritance?
I'd be interested in knowing when you purchased your house too?

Also what areas is it not bad in? Want to live in London or the South West or surrounding areas... jog on. Want to live in the North East... enjoy negative equity. Want to live in Wales... enjoy your employment prospects.

About the only place that has any sense of normality is the North West where you can still get something at a decent price, though still anywhere from 10 - 100 times the price that you would have paid in the 60's through to the late 90's.
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yes I have been made redundant twice

promotions have been on merit, obviously

never had an inheritance and never will

purchased first house in 90s with double digit interest rates
 
This a symptom of several problems in our society such au automation and wealth disparity between the young and the old generations. Automation killed off many jobs that gave uneducated young men long term stability and a sufficient wage to support a family and a mortgage. The older generation are better off now (much better off than they parents were compared to them when they were young) so they provide a cushion for the young, usually in the form of housing.

Developed states should start offering heavy educational subsidies for modern vocational schools to provide more opportunities for these young men. They also need to take drastic measures to combat the balooning real estate markets from Vancouver to NY to London to Melbourne because these markets have been the main engine behind the wealth disparity.

Interestingly, these two groups(young uneducated and old supporting parents/grandparents) have the same voting patterns which wrongly blame immigration.
 
Hellsmk2 said:
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About the only place that has any sense of normality is the North West where you can still get something at a decent price, though still anywhere from 10 - 100 times the price that you would have paid in the 60's through to the late 90's.
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Top of the range Ford Cortina 2000GXL in 1972 £1270
Base model Ford Mondeo in 2017 £19,205

Everything has gone up, including wages. The biggest issue for housing is how the population has gone up!!
 
Dis86 said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...s-highest-rate-20-years-calling-question/amp/

Article well worth reading. The town mentioned isn't far from me and what makes it even more galling is in my town we had some newbuilds put up 5 years ago that are still empty!
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Long and short of it, build as many houses as you like, but if the house prices aren't at a level where people can afford to buy them then you're probably not going to sell the houses.

I think house prices are an easy thing to focus on but generally the entire property situation is a bit of a killer at the moment. Getting on the ladder is hard, renting is expensive, property agents can be extremely tricky to deal with and due to rent rises security deposits can be painful. I'm so grateful that the wife and I managed to get a mortgage when we did, aside from any ideas about the value of our property rising it's just nice to know that barring a disaster we will always have a place to live.
 
I play competitive online gaming because it is a challenge, and i have not yet found anything that comes close.

Gaming and being lazy are two different things.
 
The fascination with computer games escapes me, but probably the youth ensconced in front of PC screens is comparable to those in billiard halls in the 1950's. An escape from reality for their work shy male equivalents. Manifestly inflating the academic egos of young people has led to a generation or two of aspirants with ideals well above reality. I remember my late grandfather saying promising useless high faluting educational prospects to the working class masses was foolhardy, and would result in a lack of tradesmen and a glut of social dissatisfaction. Quite what social pressures and consumerist aspirations making mothers have go out to work full time to help finance a lifestyle realistically beyond their means has done to the labour market I am not sure... I doubt it's done the job prospects of men any great favours!
 
Chris Wilson said:
The fascination with computer games escapes me, but probably the youth ensconced in front of PC screens is comparable to those in billiard halls in the 1950's. An escape from reality for their work shy male equivalents. Manifestly inflating the academic egos of young people has led to a generation or two of aspirants with ideals well above reality. I remember my late grandfather saying promising useless high faluting educational prospects to the working class masses was foolhardy, and would result in a lack of tradesmen and a glut of social dissatisfaction. Quite what social pressures and consumerist aspirations making mothers have go out to work full time to help finance a lifestyle realistically beyond their means has done to the labour market I am not sure... I doubt it's done the job prospects of men any great favours!
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Pesky women, get 'em back in the kitchen where they belong amirite?

In relation to gaming, why does anybody do anything for recreation. Every generation deviates from the previous one in terms of how they spend their downtime, that lack of understanding between the generations leads people to judge them for their social choices. At the end of the day the majority of the complaints probably boil down to "stop doing free time wrong", I doubt the productivity of a generation differs that much from the last in real terms it's just the gaming aspect that gives people a stick with which to beat. Every generation has lazy ******, all that changes is what they spend their time doing.
 
Dis86 said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...s-highest-rate-20-years-calling-question/amp/

Article well worth reading. The town mentioned isn't far from me and what makes it even more galling is in my town we had some newbuilds put up 5 years ago that are still empty!
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yeah they are empty because the price is too high and the people selling don't need the money immediately.
We should still build as many houses we can and eventually people will be forced to lower prices as they will need the money.
 
aardvark said:
yeah they are empty because the price is too high and the people selling don't need the money immediately.
We should still build as many houses we can and eventually people will be forced to lower prices as they will need the money.
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You're missing the point that we already have more than enough houses. Yes, the issue is the price but building more clearly isn't changing the price when those building them or who own them can afford for them to sit empty.
We don't need more houses.
We need houses people can afford.
 
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