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dirtydog said:
And stop Sikhs being allowed to carry knives as well.
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Agreed but iirc a picture of a kinve would do or some image of some sort. I would let a sikh comment on that.
 
ElRazur said:
I belive laws of the school are somehow biased towards christains.
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I think you mean against in the context of your arguments. They are right to ban it, it is not an integral part of her religion. Religion should be largely separated from the classroom.

Whether or not you think the Muslim headscarf, for example, should be an integral part of the Muslim religion, is another topic entirely.
 
ElRazur said:
It aint nosense, perhaps you mean you refuse to see what i pointed out. Yes you can belive what you want and practise as you see fit BUT lets not forget that others (religion) in this case is reported to be allowed to wear similar items. Again some would argue that this is a christain country and such thing shouldnt be banned anyway....

As for definition of religion by one person....Im guessing over 1 billion christain worldwide dont count in your books?
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Firstly as said above I agree that all religiong should have to be bound by the same rules.

As for your 1 billion ppl comment...
All these people will not practise christianity by the same measure. Ech will do it slightly and majorly different. Some will pick up on some things more greatly than others. Some will attend church once a week some once a year.
Thereore they are all choosing to take their religion to a different level.

mark
 
It's her right to believe in her religion, she's not harming anyone. I'm no christian and I don't like the idea of religions but I can handle a damn ring on a girls finger. It's a far cry from putting a veil over someones face, and it's definitely nowhere near as strong a symbol as a cross around someones neck.

I don't know why she'd want to wear it, but that's her decision. It's not harming anyone.

However, if this decision was made purely on the fact it is a bit of jewellery she should be subject to the same rules as anyone else. If the decision was made in any other light - it's wrong.
 
ElRazur said:
Agreed but iirc a picture of a kinve would do or some image of some sort. I would let a sikh comment on that.
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Yes, they're called Kirpans. The DoE are pretty liberal and say that Sikhs can carry 2 in knives to school with little restriction but as yet I don't believe there have been any stabbings thanks to Sikhs taking a responsible attitude.

I think Pagans can also carry athames in public, although not sure about schools
 
platypus said:
I think you mean against in the context of your arguments. They are right to ban it, it is not an integral part of her religion. Religion should be largely separated from the classroom..
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Could be, english not my strongest point. :) Im trying to say that the law is probably biased towards christains as it would appear that other religion are allowed to wear similar items.

If the bible is the book christ followers belief in and she seem to quote part of the scriptures to support her actions, i would think that counts as an integral part of her religion. Now the question is how do you go about separating it from classromm without not making a move that would appear to ban it.
 
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ElRazur said:
Could be, english not my strongest point. :) Im trygin to say that the law is probably biased towards christains as it would appear that other religion are allowed to wear similar items.

If the bible is the book christ followers belief in and she seem to quote part of the scriptures to support her actions, i would think that counts as an integral part of her religion. Now the question is how do you go about separating it from classromm without not making a move that would appear to ban it.
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Yep you mean against.

Christianity is quite a divided religion, and the Bible is interpreted differently by each denomination. Now, you would not be able to find me a Christian, just one, who follows every scripture in the Bible. As with many aspects of religion, she is merely quoting a particular excerpt to support her argument in this specific case. If she dutifully followed every other scripture then maybe you could argue in her favour, but I highly doubt that is the case.
 
cleanbluesky said:
Yes, they're called Kirpans. The DoE are pretty liberal and say that Sikhs can carry 2 in knives to school with little restriction but as yet I don't believe there have been any stabbings
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Irrelevant as far as I am concerned :)
 
platypus said:
Yep you mean against.

Christianity is quite a divided religion, and the Bible is interpreted differently by each denomination. Now, you would not be able to find me a Christian, just one, who follows every scripture in the Bible. As with many aspects of religion, she is merely quoting a particular excerpt to support her argument in this specific case. If she dutifully followed every other scripture then maybe you could argue in her favour, but I highly doubt that is the case.
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An excellent point.
As many above have said, ban the jewellery because it is jewellery and against school rules fair enough.
Which no doubt is what they were doing.
mark
 
cleanbluesky said:
Yes, they're called Kirpans. The DoE are pretty liberal and say that Sikhs can carry 2 in knives to school with little restriction but as yet I don't believe there have been any stabbings thanks to Sikhs taking a responsible attitude.

I think Pagans can also carry athames in public, although not sure about schools
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Unfortunately the sikh can be as resposible as he wants, doesnt stop someone else stealing the knife and using it does it.

Mark
 
cleanbluesky said:
I'm not for it, I think the DoE are irresponsible but when examining the situation it would be inappropriate not to mention how responsible the Sikhs have been within it
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Fair enough but I don't think we should pander to their delusional religion whereby they carry knives 24/7 and refuse to cut their hair, lest they upset their imaginary friend, sorry, 'god' :)
 
lol sorry justin and Mark, got too caught up in the moment :D

Back on topic, this was on the Wright Stuff this morning and i caught a brief glimpse of the issue. I feel the girl is wasting time. Its a ring, whats the big deal if she is asked to take it off, whether it is religious or not? just take the f-ing ring off and stop moaning about human rights.

Wish someone would burn the human rights legislation because everyone and their dog is using it to gain compensation. Feel sorry for the High Court having to deal with this drivel (sp?)

Someone should tell her to shut up and deal with it. Grmbl.
 
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