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Your Pension.

A correction to my post - there is in fact a minimum contribution employers have to make, but many choose to pay more.

I'm surprised you make enough to have anything to contribute anyway after you're done selling 17 CDs per month.
 
So moronic that a company has to pay a contribution for its workers pension especially considering a tiny percentage will work there for many years!

It's just deferred salary.

You might as well say "So moronic that a company has to pay its workers".
 
Average salary pension if it survives. Which I doubt it, pensions are subject to change. And inexpert them to be tweaked and changed a lot in the next 30 odd years.
 
A correction to my post - there is in fact a minimum contribution employers have to make, but many choose to pay more.

I'm surprised you make enough to have anything to contribute anyway after you're done selling 17 CDs per month.

So I was right then? Care to make any more unresearched assumptions about the accuracy of my posts? ;)

Haha you're a funny guy!
 
No, you are still wrong even with the slight change of context. You stated it was 'moronic'. It is not. The fact that many companies choose at their discretion to pay in more than the minimum amount shows that they and their employees clearly consider it a valuable benefit.
 
Civil Aviation Authority Pension Scheme for me, which is currently a Final Salary Scheme. What it'll be like by the time I retire is anybodys guess, but it should be good enough to live a very comfortable life.
 
Whilst we're all bemoaning the shockingly poor annuity rates on offer these days, any suggestions about good websites to get quotes/comparisons? Someone I know is considering cashing in a smallish fund that I think they paid into as an AVC. Just wondered whether anyone has found any recommended/specialist sites as opposed to the usual bunch that come up from a Google search.
 
I think by the time I am on a pension, they will be scrapped (because the benefit scroungers will have used it all up!) so instead of paying any money into a government pension I would rather pay into a trust or just an offshore bank account where it can't be touched by the UK.

You might want to read this (it's a couple of years old but still applies) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16744819

A large part of income tax that working people pay goes straight back out again to pay for the pensions of retired people. It doesn't go into a pot, put away for decades to be used for pensions.

When you are at retirement age, the younger people still working and paying income tax will be paying your pension.

There is no "pot" of pension money that gets "used up". You think the government would be able to have millions of pounds just sat there in the bank for decades, earning practically nothing? :rolleyes:

It's basically the same as getting paid every month - money comes in, then it all goes out again on mortgage/bills/food/car etc. Only it's: tax revenue comes in, then it goes out again to pay for pensions, benefits, debts, NHS, education, defense etc.

And lets not forget the "benefit scroungers" - there's more to benefits than just JSA - have a look at the breakdown of benefits paid by your income tax. A tiny amount goes to JSA claimants, the rest is housing benefit, council tax benefit, child benefit, disability living allowance, income support... the list goes on. Combined with the pension bill (which is another form of government benefit) and all other benefits, JSA is 3% of the total benefits spend.

The reason why the state pension is getting less and less, is because people are living longer, therefore there are more people over retirement age, which means the pension bill is getting bigger.
 
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Started last tax year, pay in 5% and the company matches that.
Am only 25 (26 this year), will aim to start saving additional money for retirement once me and the wife have paid for our wedding (August 2014) and bought a house (God knows!).
 
No pension here or my wife, could never afford it.

Are you sure?

Without prying, it may be worth looking into your finances as a pension is a must imo.

My dad badgered at me to get a pension from the age of 18 and I'm extremely glad he did (though he retired at 57 on a directors pension so he may have overshot his expectations of mine a little :o) I now pay into 4
 
Having previously worked in the pensions industry for years, it's shocking how much you actually need to have put away to have a decent pension when you retire. Talking personal pensions here, not any government pension (if there is one by the time I/we retire!).

Say you want 20k a year (bear in mind 20k now will be worth less than that in 20/30 years time), if you retire at 60, that's probably 20 years of annuity/yearly income it will need to provide. That's £400,000 you'll be needing. That's not taking a 25% tax free lump sum. And then you'll pay income tax on the yearly income. So that 20k a year, after inflation and income tax is more like £10k a year, luckily the state pension will be anough to get your total pension back up to £17-18k a year.

So bet on half a million in a pension pot to be sure. Yeah, I'll be working until I'm dead/renting out property just like many other people my age when they come to 'retire'.

I understand the points you're making, but the alternatives are? Don't save and be poor? The pension is just a tax privileged wrapper for saving, nothing more.

The need to save is the priority. Good planning will determine how much should go into which tax wrapper, and where it should be invested.

Separately, it is encouraging to see in this thread that there are still some employers willing to make really good contributions to pensions. Frankly, if your employer is paying over 10% then you have an excellent foundation on which to start retirement planning.
 
Company double the 8% I put in, so 24% in total. Not bad, but nothing special either, although I have tailored the investment funds. Have another 3yrs worth of pension from my previous employer that I really need to see if I can transfer over.

Have also invested in S&S ISA for medium and long term monies but also as a punt to get short term monies for a house deposit. £600 up in 2 months which is great, but that could easily change.

I'm still under 30, but saving for retirement just isn't something that can be ignored these days!!!
 
2% contributed by me and 1% contributed by my employer. Dire? Yes. But it's Retail. I'm only 20 though so hoping that by getting the ball rolling sooner rather than later that 3% total should snowball over the years. Better than nothing.
 
I started a pension when I was 21, so have built up a reasonable pot for my age. I get 25% salary into pension (for only 7% contributions) here which is great, so it really started ramping up when I got this job. Then we own property which we'll hope to rent out to boost our income.
 
Police pension, which has been mauled to an extent (thanks Windsor) but I should still be on course to retire at 60 with a decent pension. We'll see how that changes in the next 26 years though.
 
Massive waste money unless you have a good employer contribution or are in the Public sector.

Me bits here and there and property, lots of property.
 
I'm on a final salary scheme at the moment. I think I get 1/80 x my final salary for every year I have been a member of the scheme (might be 1/60?). However the company are already making noises about changing the scheme, so there is really no way it will still be final salary when I retire. The only issue is how good a deal the union manage to negotiate when the scheme is abolished (already closed to new members since 2006).
 
Stupidly waited until 28 to start paying in. I pay 7% and employer matches my contributions so not bad.

Luckily with wife being a teacher that's a solid (if not as good as it once was) pension to help too.
 
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