Zotac Geforce 9300 ITX board + E7400 chip @ 3.33Ghz

Stonedofmoo · 16 Jul 2009 at 08:07

Hi guys

I'm thinking of putting together a mini ITX system with Zotac 9300 S775 board and a Intel E7400 chip in a Sugo SG05.

Has anyone else done this and would I be likely to see a problem if I try overclocking this chip from stock 2.8Ghz to 3.33Ghz? Obviously this is no issue at all on normal boards and cases but I'm not so certain with Mini ITX and I wouldn't want heat to become an issue.

Cheers

daniel_bourton · 16 Jul 2009 at 17:29

with that case you can use a decent cooler so i can see any real big issues with it really havent haerd any1 overlcock anything in a mini-itx build yet though
be nice to see what you can get out of it

Splint · 16 Jul 2009 at 20:56

Should be fine, running same case/mobo with an E5200 currently at 3.3ghz

Cant hit the same fsb speed as i could on my P5B but still quick enough! Using a Scythe shuriken low profile cooler and temps stay below 50 when gaming.

meansizzler · 17 Jul 2009 at 15:47

Splint said:
Should be fine, running same case/mobo with an E5200 currently at 3.3ghz Cant hit the same fsb speed as i could on my P5B but still quick enough! Using a Scythe shuriken low profile cooler and temps stay below 50 when gaming.

What settings do you use in the bios for overclock?, i.e cpu/mem/pci-e voltage as well as multiplier/fsb setting?

As for the cpu cooler which way do you have the fan facing?, blowing up to psu or down to cooler?

Edward78 · 17 Jul 2009 at 15:54

I wish someone would come out with a SFF board that could take Intel/AMD chips & real PCIe boards, be cool to have a system like I have now in a ITX case.
EVGA. nForce 650i ultra Intel Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8200 2.66GHz
6MB Cache Dual Core 1333MHz 2 Gig DIMM-DRAM NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS with 512 DDR3 memory (PCIe 1.00 x16)

daniel_bourton · 17 Jul 2009 at 15:57

what do you mean real pcie boards?
cant you fit a 8800gts into a sugo sg05

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 16:18

Edward78 said:
I wish someone would come out with a SFF board that could take Intel/AMD chips & real PCIe boards, be cool to have a system like I have now in a ITX case.
EVGA. nForce 650i ultra Intel Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8200 2.66GHz
6MB Cache Dual Core 1333MHz 2 Gig DIMM-DRAM NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS with 512 DDR3 memory (PCIe 1.00 x16)

I'm running a 3.16ghz core2, 4gb Ram and a 4870 in my ITX build right now.

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 16:27

Splint said:
Should be fine, running same case/mobo with an E5200 currently at 3.3ghz Cant hit the same fsb speed as i could on my P5B but still quick enough! Using a Scythe shuriken low profile cooler and temps stay below 50 when gaming.

I don't suppose you'd know if the shuriken would still fit on the board even when using tall RAM such as Geil Evo/corsair dominator/OCZ reaper?

I'm using the Evo at the moment but as you can see form this pic:

http://www.geil.tw/products/show/id/127

It's quite tall.

Literally any overhang of the memory would rule this cooler out for me but I'm sick of the whine of the stock intel unit.

Edward78 · 17 Jul 2009 at 16:30

Geckovich said:
I'm running a 3.16ghz core2, 4gb Ram and a 4870 in my ITX build right now.

Cool, could I see a pic? The new DTX boards look good also.

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 16:57

Mobo with CPU and RAM installed:

Sat on my desk:

Side vent showing 4870:

Edward78 · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:05

Geckovich said:
Mobo with CPU and RAM installed:

Sat on my desk:

Side vent showing 4870:

Where does the memory & the graphics card go??

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:10

Memory is the black stuff (Geil evo with a strange heatsink) in the first pic on the top right edge, GPU goes in the orange slot on the bottom right side of the first pic.

Edward78 · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:17

Geckovich said:
Memory is the black stuff (Geil evo with a strange heatsink) in the first pic on the top right edge, GPU goes in the orange slot on the bottom right side of the first pic.

I thought that was the PCIe slot, just didn't see the memory. What kind of board is it & is it a good one? Be cool to have a system as small as a console.

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:27

Edward78 said:
I thought that was the PCIe slot, just didn't see the memory. What kind of board is it & is it a good one? Be cool to have a system as small as a console.

Zotac 9300-ITX, It does the job (core2 CPU and PCIe graphics slot in tiny form factor) but it also has it's issues. Namely poor fan speed control for CPU and chassis fan.

For the size of it the performamce is great but to be honest I think I'm going to return to standard ATX size for my next build, I like tinkering too much and there's not a lot you can do with this board/form factor.

Edward78 · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:44

Geckovich said:
Zotac 9300-ITX, It does the job (core2 CPU and PCIe graphics slot in tiny form factor) but it also has it's issues. Namely poor fan speed control for CPU and chassis fan.

For the size of it the performamce is great but to be honest I think I'm going to return to standard ATX size for my next build, I like tinkering too much and there's not a lot you can do with this board/form factor.

Hmmm, don't want stuff to get hot, wish real companies would build SFF boards. If DTX boards would go to market, it would be great.

Geckovich · 17 Jul 2009 at 17:53

Edward78 said:
Hmmm, don't want stuff to get hot, wish real companies would build SFF boards. If DTX boards would go to market, it would be great.

It's not that stuff runs too hot, its that the fans never seem to slow down. There's no control whatsoever over the chassis fan and the CPU fan is nearly always spun up.

In the bios my target CPU temp is 60*C, but even now with the CPU sitting at roughly 40 on each core my CPU fan is still running almost flat out even though I've told it not to.

Splint · 18 Jul 2009 at 00:56

meansizzler said:
What settings do you use in the bios for overclock?, i.e cpu/mem/pci-e voltage as well as multiplier/fsb setting?

As for the cpu cooler which way do you have the fan facing?, blowing up to psu or down to cooler?

I've attached a pic of the fsb/mem settings. I'm Using the chips default multi which is 12, I had the fsb a lot higher with lower multi but it was unstable and i ntoiced from benchmarks that the mem bandwidth went down..which would suggest the internal timings must relax to keep the board stable...below is 266 vs 375 using sisft mem bandwidth, i'm sure there is a sweet spot for the fsb but resetting the cmos on this board once installed soon becomes tiresome!

Model : nVidia MCP79 Host Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 267MHz (1GHz)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 8.34GB/s

Aggregate Memory Performance : 5.42GB/s
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.4GB/s
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.43GB/s

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Model : nVidia MCP79 Host Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 375MHz (1.5GHz)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 11.72GB/s

Aggregate Memory Performance : 5.37GB/s
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.36GB/s
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 5.38GB/s

As for the cooler i have it blowing up into the psu, didnt like the idea of blowing hot air from psu onto cpu and also for it having to compete with the psu fan for air flow!

Geckovich said:
I don't suppose you'd know if the shuriken would still fit on the board even when using tall RAM such as Geil Evo/corsair dominator/OCZ reaper?

Unfortunately not, both ways you can mount the cooler produce some overhang

meansizzler · 18 Jul 2009 at 08:40

Splint said:
I've attached a pic of the fsb/mem settings. I'm Using the chips default multi which is 12, I had the fsb a lot higher with lower multi but it was unstable and i ntoiced from benchmarks that the mem bandwidth went down..(

Thanks, I am using the gemini 2 cooler, the 9300itx is one of the worst boards I have used, very hard to get into the bios, and buggy to, as for why they only put two sata ports on their when there ion board has 4, should be the other way round, if your going to use raid then where are you going to connect your optical drive?

I have a usb slimline BD-ROm, connected via usb, trouble is that you can't use it to boot the vista os disc as it requires a driver, for the slimline sata to usb convertor, which is weird and anoying because if you plug it into any pc running vista it installs the driver itself. Anyway constantly having to unplug a hard drive to connect a sata dvd drive, also with two usb optical drives connected can't boot the vista os disc in the 2nd drive..

Very Bad board!!!

Stonedofmoo · 18 Jul 2009 at 08:46

It's not a bad board just because it has 2 sata ports. You should have looked at what it had and decided if it fit your purpose or not, clearly it does not.

For many of us 1 HDD and 1 DVDRW is perfectly acceptable as thats all you fit into most ITX cases anyhow.

Geckovich · 18 Jul 2009 at 13:38

meansizzler said:
Thanks, I am using the gemini 2 cooler, the 9300itx is one of the worst boards I have used, very hard to get into the bios, and buggy to, as for why they only put two sata ports on their when there ion board has 4, should be the other way round, if your going to use raid then where are you going to connect your optical drive?

I have a usb slimline BD-ROm, connected via usb, trouble is that you can't use it to boot the vista os disc as it requires a driver, for the slimline sata to usb convertor, which is weird and anoying because if you plug it into any pc running vista it installs the driver itself. Anyway constantly having to unplug a hard drive to connect a sata dvd drive, also with two usb optical drives connected can't boot the vista os disc in the 2nd drive..

Very Bad board!!!

Hard to get into the BIOS? Please elaborate.