Everton and zero money - Updated 17/11/23

[woppy101]

That would destroy any hope of us competing in Europe though. NFL only works because it's a closed system.

It also would lead to teams throwing games later in the season to get better caps for next season

Depending where the cap is set I don’t think it would, also it’s more likely the rest of europe would follow suit especially with the PL being the richest league in the world.

if you set the cap for instance at £250m per year for 1st team wages for the PL winners and increased the cap by £5m per year for each descending team, meaning the team coming up from the championship would be able to spend a maximum of £350m on first team wages, you could even exclude players coming through the youth system from the cap, so for instance mason mount would not count to Chelsea’s salary cap, meaning teams would look more toward and giving youth players a chance.

 

[Shamikebab]

The rest of Europe has been dying to catch up to the lure of the PL of the last decade. You think if we handed them the advantage of introducing a cap that they'd voluntarily match it? No chance.

 

[BaZ87]

UEFA have already implementing their revised FFP controls which will eventually end with clubs only able to spend 70% of revenue on wages and transfers. A way in which you can use a variation of that, while keeping things both fair and sustainable would be to allow all PL sides to spend 70% of the highest revenue in the League however you have a blanket ban on related party transactions (so City can't be sponsored by Etihad etc to bloat their revenue) and any side that spends over 70% of their own revenue has to put financial guarantees in place of £2 for every £1 over they are.

So for example, if x have the highest revenue in the PL and that is £600m - every side is allowed to spend a maximum of £420m on wages and transfer fee amortisation in any one season. Your City's or Newcastle's aren't being penalised as they're still able to spend just as much as any other club but their owners just have to guarantee 2x the excess they're spending - e.g. if 70% of Newcastle's revenue equated to £245m but they wanted to spend the full £420m then they can but their owners have to provide security for £350m so that if the money dried up in the future, Newcastle have that amount covered to pay for 2 years worth of historical contracts/transfer fees.

 

[woppy101]

UEFA have already implementing their revised FFP controls which will eventually end with clubs only able to spend 70% of revenue on wages and transfers. A way in which you can use a variation of that, while keeping things both fair and sustainable would be to allow all PL sides to spend 70% of the highest revenue in the League however you have a blanket ban on related party transactions (so City can't be sponsored by Etihad etc to bloat their revenue) and any side that spends over 70% of their own revenue has to put financial guarantees in place of £2 for every £1 over they are.

So for example, if x have the highest revenue in the PL and that is £600m - every side is allowed to spend a maximum of £420m on wages and transfer fee amortisation in any one season. Your City's or Newcastle's aren't being penalised as they're still able to spend just as much as any other club but their owners just have to guarantee 2x the excess they're spending - e.g. if 70% of Newcastle's revenue equated to £245m but they wanted to spend the full £420m then they can but their owners have to provide security for £350m so that if the money dried up in the future, Newcastle have that amount covered to pay for 2 years worth of historical contracts/transfer fees.

That seems very fair TBH

 

[ThundyCat]

Apparently the FFP charge against Everton is supposedly related to a tax issue regarding loans for the new Stadium. Not sure how true or accurate this information is though.

 

[woppy101]

Just heard from a mate that Everton are in for a 12 point deduction for the FFP breaches

 

[omnomnom]

Just heard from a mate that Everton are in for a 12 point deduction for the FFP breaches

The telegraph are reporting thats what the Premier League want.

 

[Tombstone]

Just heard from a mate that Everton are in for a 12 point deduction for the FFP breaches

How is it that has come around so quickly but we've heard nothing more about the 100+ charges that Man City were facing? Seems to have just been brushed under the carpet. If Everton are going to get a 12 pt deduction what will Man City get for over 100 charges, a 100pt deduction ?

 

[omnomnom]

How is it that has come around so quickly but we've heard nothing more about the 100+ charges that Man City were facing? Seems to have just been brushed under the carpet. If Everton are going to get a 12 pt deduction what will Man City get for over 100 charges, a 100pt deduction ?

Theyll get nothing if the government get involved

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

How is it that has come around so quickly but we've heard nothing more about the 100+ charges that Man City were facing?

Everton can't afford the bribes.

 

[Rotty]

UEFA have already implementing their revised FFP controls which will eventually end with clubs only able to spend 70% of revenue on wages and transfers.

that would work as everyone would report their revenue fairly, wouldn't they?

 

[adam cool dude]

Why is Everton getting 12 points deducted but City absolutely nothing? The whole world is just messed up.

 

[C Kent]

that would work as everyone would report their revenue fairly, wouldn't they?

I've got some 'magic' beans you might be interested in.

 

[Rotty]

Why is Everton getting 12 points deducted but City absolutely nothing? The whole world is just messed up.

Cos City have very expansive lawyers

 

[Azza]

Well that's us well and truly ****ed.

 

[BaZ87]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725488849151820051

Everton have already confirmed that they will appeal the decision and ultimately it's all going to be meaningless as they'll still comfortably finish outside the bottom 3.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Well that's us well and truly ****ed.

Not a chance! They’re only 2 points from safety (and not bottom!) even with the deduction.

There’s that much dross down there they’ll still come 15th/16th.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Well that's us well and truly ****ed.

It's bad but you're fortunate it's been applied this season, you'll easily finish outside of relegation still.

 

[robfosters]

Ok, City next right…..right?

 

[XeNoN89]

Ok, City next right…..right?

Probably Chelsea actually