14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

[wookiee87]

seen gigabyte's baseline profiles, turns a core i9 to a i7

Gigabyte Z790 "Intel Baseline" profile puts Core i9-13900KF (QS) CPU into Core i7 tier - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte promises “Superior Stability” with its Intel Baseline motherboard profile for Core i9 CPUs Similarly to ASUS, Gigabyte has released the Intel Baseline Profile setting within its BIOS for 13th and 14th Gen Core CPUs, all in an effort to offer more stability to these CPUs. As we reported...

videocardz.com

 

[Grim5]

seen gigabyte's baseline profiles, turns a core i9 to a i7

Gigabyte Z790 "Intel Baseline" profile puts Core i9-13900KF (QS) CPU into Core i7 tier - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte promises “Superior Stability” with its Intel Baseline motherboard profile for Core i9 CPUs Similarly to ASUS, Gigabyte has released the Intel Baseline Profile setting within its BIOS for 13th and 14th Gen Core CPUs, all in an effort to offer more stability to these CPUs. As we reported...

videocardz.com

Very nice

 

[humbug]

seen gigabyte's baseline profiles, turns a core i9 to a i7

Gigabyte Z790 "Intel Baseline" profile puts Core i9-13900KF (QS) CPU into Core i7 tier - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte promises “Superior Stability” with its Intel Baseline motherboard profile for Core i9 CPUs Similarly to ASUS, Gigabyte has released the Intel Baseline Profile setting within its BIOS for 13th and 14th Gen Core CPUs, all in an effort to offer more stability to these CPUs. As we reported...

videocardz.com

If this is how these CPU's are supposed to be run all the reviews are wrong.

 

[wookiee87]

If this is how these CPU's are supposed to be run all the reviews are wrong.

There have been calls from users unofficially to re-run all tests on 13/14th gen, wonder if reviewers will dive back in and see real world performance is at baseline profiles, cinebench is a blood bath for intel, though games do look to be lower the drop isn't as bad, if you game at 1440p or 4k the speed drop will be negligible.

 

[humbug]

There have been calls from users unofficially to re-run all tests on 13/14th gen, wonder if reviewers will dive back in and see real world performance is at baseline profiles, cinebench is a blood bath for intel, though games do look to be lower the drop isn't as bad, if you game at 1440p or 4k the speed drop will be negligible.

If they aren't actually meant to be run like this in these reviews, nor actually retail stable............

 

[LtMatt]

There have been calls from users unofficially to re-run all tests on 13/14th gen, wonder if reviewers will dive back in and see real world performance is at baseline profiles, cinebench is a blood bath for intel, though games do look to be lower the drop isn't as bad, if you game at 1440p or 4k the speed drop will be negligible.

That's because games generally don't draw as much power so the performance reduction is 5% or less for the most part.

I'd like to see everything retested though, but doubt anyone can be bothered this late in the game.

 

[Rroff]

That's because games generally don't draw as much power so the performance reduction is 5% or less for the most part.

I'd like to see everything retested though, but doubt anyone can be bothered this late in the game.

I rarely see more than ~150 watt draw from my 14700K while gaming with a 4080 Super at 1440p. No one seems to have really looked at what the impact is on the CPUs sub i9 yet.

 

[LtMatt]

I rarely see more than ~150 watt draw from my 14700K while gaming with a 4080 Super at 1440p. No one seems to have really looked at what the impact is on the CPUs sub i9 yet.

Probably less of an impact I'm guessing as less cores/frequency and lower power draw, is my uneducated guess.

 

[wookiee87]

The whole reason the baseline was introduced was because i9's in particular were facing crashing issues in games, reducing core ratios seemed to help, then falcon North west had a guide to tune i9's to stop crashing, soon after asus released baseline profiles, and now gigabyte are doing the same.

I7's were never brought up as having issues as above they use a fair bit less power.

 

[Rroff]

The whole reason the baseline was introduced was because i9's in particular were facing crashing issues in games, reducing core ratios seemed to help, then falcon North west had a guide to tune i9's to stop crashing, soon after asus released baseline profiles, and now gigabyte are doing the same.

I7's were never brought up as having issues as above they use a fair bit less power.

There have been some smaller number of reports of supposedly the same issue with lower tier 13th and 14th gen but I don't know if they are actually the same issue - the motherboard vendor BIOS optimisations for these CPUs are also running without the power limits, etc. of the Intel specs, but whether that is generally a problem seems vague at the moment.

 

[RSR]

If this is how these CPU's are supposed to be run all the reviews are wrong.

Can you test it and let me know what the scores are, please?

 

[RSR]

There have been some smaller number of reports of supposedly the same issue with lower tier 13th and 14th gen but I don't know if they are actually the same issue - the motherboard vendor BIOS optimisations for these CPUs are also running without the power limits, etc. of the Intel specs, but whether that is generally a problem seems vague at the moment.

Some of the issues are potentially related to the VIDs, as these are factory-fused values. I had an 14900KS with a VID issue, as it would just lock going to full boost, even if you revert the SVID to the "Intel Fail Safe" up to a point you can work around those issues. However, those are X batch CPUs out of Vietnam I've not seen any other reports on other batchs.

That's what I have found from testing a number of these KS's now but most have been fine.

 

[stooeh]

I rarely see more than ~150 watt draw from my 14700K while gaming with a 4080 Super at 1440p. No one seems to have really looked at what the impact is on the CPUs sub i9 yet.

That's quite a lot! Surely you can tame that a bit

 

[Dave2150]

I rarely see more than ~150 watt draw from my 14700K while gaming with a 4080 Super at 1440p. No one seems to have really looked at what the impact is on the CPUs sub i9 yet.

Meanwhile my 7950X3D sips 50-60W in most games and has equal or better gaming performance than 14900KS turbo ninja 9000W edition

 

[Rroff]

Meanwhile my 7950X3D sips 50-60W in most games and has equal or better gaming performance than 14900KS turbo ninja 9000W edition

I doubt whole system power consumption is hugely different once you add in the rest of components.

 

[RSR]

I doubt whole system power consumption is hugely different once you add in the rest of components.

It's not more so when used with a 7900XTX it's about the same or more.

As an example on the COD benchmark I can pull 808 Watts on a 7950X3D & 7900XTX but less on a 14900K and 4090 at the same part in the benchmark in terms of peak power on a power meter measuring at the wall.

 

[RSR]

Here we go:

 

[wookiee87]

You have a aib card which will draw significantly more power under load, my MBA 7900xtx with a tuned 7950x pulls around 580w total sustained, granted peak power is more as the MBA alone can hit 520w but that's for a second or 2, my CPU hovers around 90-130w, as for the GPU that is out of box 349w.

 

[0121danwilliams84]

Here we go:

Sweet setup! I just got done with stabilizing 5.9 all core 6.2 boost on my 94sp 14900K. Replicated a 14900KS. Not a great bin apparently but the cores seem decent.

Thinking of making the final push towards 6.0 all core. Temps are pretty good but the voltage is getting up there now! Still only 1.4ish under load though with an adaptive voltage.

 

[LtMatt]

You have a aib card which will draw significantly more power under load, my MBA 7900xtx with a tuned 7950x pulls around 580w total sustained, granted peak power is more as the MBA alone can hit 520w but that's for a second or 2, my CPU hovers around 90-130w, as for the GPU that is out of box 349w.

He's using a 550W BIOS I believe, stock XTX MBA is 350W.