Are the USA morally superior to the UK?

Soldato
Joined
17 Jun 2012
Posts
11,259
'It could only happen in America'

Did the founding fathers have a greater sense of morality and vision when they created the US of A, or did they just pick the best parts and try and create some kind of paradise that is now fallen apart as a result of poverty , crime, unhealthiness and corruption.

I can't really fault the US overall. They do have higher overall crime rates and bigger prison populations and worse health i believe, overall, but they have created city after city of amazing engineering and technology. They are world leaders in everything, from art to science to military equipment. Maybe we should have a look and learn. I think in Britain we have a tendency to downgrade the US, probably as we see them as stealing British land, but in reality they have become the dominant force in world Science, engineering, human rights, justice etc etc...

Just throwing in this topic.
 
Soldato
Joined
20 Aug 2010
Posts
8,201
Ha ha ha ha ha

No universal healthcare
overpriced education system
No welfare system at all.
A lot of crime.
Massive wealth inequality.

Sounds like a great place to live.
 
Man of Honour
Joined
28 Nov 2007
Posts
12,736
'It could only happen in America'

Did the founding fathers have a greater sense of morality and vision when they created the US of A, or did they just pick the best parts and try and create some kind of paradise that is now fallen apart as a result of poverty , crime, unhealthiness and corruption.

I can't really fault the US overall. They do have higher overall crime rates and bigger prison populations and worse health i believe, overall, but they have created city after city of amazing engineering and technology. They are world leaders in everything, from art to science to military equipment. Maybe we should have a look and learn. I think in Britain we have a tendency to downgrade the US, probably as we see them as stealing British land, but in reality they have become the dominant force in world Science, engineering, human rights, justice etc etc...

Just throwing in this topic.

Have you ever even been to the US?! Good god. It is a country where if you are not relatively well off, with a car and with private health insurance you are utterly worthless and neglected by society.

The US left wing makes David Cameron look like Lenin it is so right of our system.

The US is a country which is in real danger of spiralling downward as other economies emerge to dominance.

I say this liking the US, seeing its foibles, I have lived there for a significant chunk of my life and I visit often (in fact I got back yesterday from Florida).

I am very glad to be a part of British society.
 
Caporegime
Joined
22 Nov 2005
Posts
45,280
LOL OP

seriously?
britain has some of the best aerospace and robotics companies in the world , one of our robotics companies even gets contracts from japan ffs......

we are pretty much one of the top countries for specialist areas
 
Soldato
OP
Joined
17 Jun 2012
Posts
11,259
Have you ever even been to the US?! Good god. It is a country where if you are not relatively well off, with a car and with private health insurance you are utterly worthless and neglected by society.

The US left wing makes David Cameron look like Lenin it is so right of our system.

The US is a country which is in real danger of spiralling downward as other economies emerge to dominance.

I say this liking the US, seeing its foibles, I have lived there for a significant chunk of my life and I visit often (in fact I got back yesterday from Florida).

I am very glad to be a part of British society.

Good story, tell us more. But how come they are so powerful, how come the generate so many brilliant minds and so much brilliant technology?

They have extreme right and left wings as you say, but yet as I said they still produce they best in everything?
 
Soldato
OP
Joined
17 Jun 2012
Posts
11,259
LOL OP

seriously?
britain has some of the best aerospace and robotics companies in the world , one of our robotics companies even gets contracts from japan ffs......

we are pretty much one of the top countries for specialist areas

Do you know where their technology came from originally. I don't, maybe the USA, I wouldn't be surprised.
 

One

One

Soldato
Joined
24 Aug 2011
Posts
6,162
Location
ABQ, NM
LOL OP

seriously?
britain has some of the best aerospace and robotics companies in the world , one of our robotics companies even gets contracts from japan ffs......

we are pretty much one of the top countries for specialist areas

All made and invented using German and Japanese tools and equipment.
 
Soldato
Joined
23 May 2011
Posts
10,200
Good story, tell us more. But how come they are so powerful, how come the generate so many brilliant minds and so much brilliant technology?

They have extreme right and left wings as you say, but yet as I said they still produce they best in everything?

They don't have left wing at all.

All made and invented using German and Japanese tools and equipment.

And? So if I gave you a saw and a load of wood and you built a wooden house out of the wood, you should get no credit and it was all because of me?
 
Caporegime
Joined
18 Oct 2002
Posts
33,188
'It could only happen in America'

Did the founding fathers have a greater sense of morality and vision when they created the US of A, or did they just pick the best parts and try and create some kind of paradise that is now fallen apart as a result of poverty , crime, unhealthiness and corruption.

I can't really fault the US overall. They do have higher overall crime rates and bigger prison populations and worse health i believe, overall, but they have created city after city of amazing engineering and technology. They are world leaders in everything, from art to science to military equipment. Maybe we should have a look and learn. I think in Britain we have a tendency to downgrade the US, probably as we see them as stealing British land, but in reality they have become the dominant force in world Science, engineering, human rights, justice etc etc...

Just throwing in this topic.

USA are not world leaders in much at all, used to be, then stopped.

They built up this us against the world spirit, then a them spirit, and now they can't see what is wrong with their own country... or I should say, most of them can't, the rest know whats wrong but profit off it so go to extreme lengths to keep it that way.

As for Skidder, some right, some wrong, I think you'll find the US isn't close to alone in the neglecting the poorer in society situation, there isn't a country I'm aware of on the planet that doesn't operate such a system.

Till we level the playing field, those with power/money will continue to use power/money to keep their power and money. Its easy, you have a billion, you spend half a billion to stay where you are which lets you make many more billions.

Democracy... lol, we the powerful pretending to let you the poor have a say, while putting on a great floorshow to distract the easily distracted from the reality.

There isn't a left/right wing really, there is two groups who take opposite stances on everything the public are currently interested in.

American public care about religion and abortion, gay marraige and taxes, so that is what the parties there fight over, though not surprisingly no matter who is in charge or what they are for, nothing changes and they just get to blame the other guy. of course, those running for election, those in elected positions spend trillions a year, make a mint, make all the people who paid for their campaigns rich, and then get cushy jobs on boards working for all these companies after they leave office.... but the daft poor people actually think things will change when they vote "the other guy" in next time.

Here the public have a different set of things they are interested in, so our parties bicker over slightly different stuff... and nothing changes, and both sides get rich, and everyone who pays them gets rich.... and we do nothing to change it.

What is Blair doing, the guy against big business, for the working man? He made defence contractors billions, he did nothing to hell the working man, he didn't raise taxes or close tax loopholes(but used them instead) and now charges people huge sums to hear nonsense, while paying smeg all tax and getting stupidly rich.

Anyway, new democracys tend to do well, older ones are corrupt and rubbish, American isn't a world leader in many things, its getting worse, we're getting worse, most places are getting worse, and "newer" powers are surging into the lead on things like education, science, economies.

America itself, is a lovely place to visit, as with the rest of the world, the nice bits are nice, the crappy bits are crap.
 
Back
Top Bottom