DDR5 with a £100 budget?

MeatLoaf · 15 Jan 2024 at 18:27

Which of these is best to pair with a B650 Asus TUF mobo. Undecided which CPU as yet. The Kingston stuff is on the QVL list for my board so im leaning towards that one.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-48000c38-6000mhz-dual-channel-my-0b2-tg.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/king...c5-44800c36-5600mhz-dual-chann-my-29u-ks.html

Tetras · 15 Jan 2024 at 18:59

If you're playing at 4K, you won't notice, so I'd just get the Kingston.

mickyflinn · 16 Jan 2024 at 07:59

6000mhz c30 is the optimum for AM5, as Tetras say won't make much difference in gaming but that won't mean improvements won't be made.

Take a look at

ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

JollyJamma · 16 Jan 2024 at 17:56

I’d be inclined to get 6000 MT/S RAM with AMD, just because even if it won’t make a noticeable difference, it’s what AMD recommends and RAM isn’t expensive these days so saving the odd £ for cheaper RAM isn’t really worth it.

Dreadi · 16 Jan 2024 at 18:21

There was some 6000mhz cl30 from team group the other day here for 109.99 which is where I would be looking.

JollyJamma · 16 Jan 2024 at 18:23

Dreadi said:
There was some 6000mhz cl30 from team group the other day here for 109.99 which is where I would be looking.

Same. Buildzoid recommended Hynix chips

Dreadi · 16 Jan 2024 at 18:24

JollyJamma said:
Same. Buildzoid recommended Hynix chips

Yup. For this reason I won't recommend Corsair kits for ddr5 but people get all bent out of shape about it

JollyJamma · 16 Jan 2024 at 20:31

Dreadi said:
Yup. For this reason I won't recommend Corsair kits for ddr5 but people get all bent out of shape about it

I vaguely remember him saying something about Corsair DIMMs but can’t recall exactly what.

Do you have the video at hand by any chance?

Dreadi · 16 Jan 2024 at 20:59

JollyJamma said:
I vaguely remember him saying something about Corsair DIMMs but can’t recall exactly what.

Do you have the video at hand by any chance?

I don't but Corsair use Samsung chips which in the intel world seem to a be a no go as they don't overclock well at all compared to the Hynix chips which offer better stability. Whilst this may not matter with AMD, I'd rather go with better quality chips.....and i like to have a little play with timings regardless

JollyJamma · 16 Jan 2024 at 21:10

Dreadi said:
I don't but Corsair use Samsung chips which in the intel world seem to a be a no go as they don't overclock well at all compared to the Hynix chips which offer better stability. Whilst this may not matter with AMD, I'd rather go with better quality chips.....and i like to have a little play with timings regardless

I think we all worry about RAM too much though, even Samsung has some advantages and most people won’t notice the difference between regular speed RAM or faster RAM.

MeatLoaf · 16 Jan 2024 at 22:45

I got the kingston stuff. Runs fine with EXPO enabled

Bito · 17 Jan 2024 at 10:10

I have that Kingston kit in an Intel build (xmp enabled). Tightened the timings and have it running at 6400 C32; no problems. Great kit for the money.

Wing-Man · 21 Jan 2024 at 17:43

mickyflinn said:
6000mhz c30 is the optimum for AM5, as Tetras say won't make much difference in gaming but that won't mean improvements won't be made.

Take a look at

ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30

This…

I have this kit at xmp speeds set to 6800mhz

Jamin280672 · 22 Jan 2024 at 15:07

There is a big difference between running DDR5 on an AMD system to an Intel system.

On AM5 there is no point running ram any faster than 6400, as anything over 6400 and you will have to run in 2:1 mode, there is no point running 2:1 until your trying or running 7600-8000, because anything lower is worse than running 6000 CL30 at 1:1.

6400 CL30/CL32 at 1:1 = about 7600 2:1, same for same in benchmarks, so forget 6600 and 6800 on AM5 as you will have to be in 2:1 and be getting speeds closer to 5600 1:1

They fixed the long training on DDR5 / AM5 systems, but only if you are running it at full stock, the second you enable XMP / EXPO or manually overclock, you're back to 20 seconds plus training before the system posts.

With AM5 being new, we are back to Ryzen 1000 days with B350 / X370 motherboards, expect fixes and improvements with the next generation of boards and CPU's.

Joxeon · 22 Jan 2024 at 19:53

Jamin280672 said:
On AM5 there is no point running ram any faster than 6400, as anything over 6400 and you will have to run in 2:1 mode, there is no point running 2:1 until your trying or running 7600-8000, because anything lower is worse than running 6000 CL30 at 1:1.

That maybe true now but in a gen or two ryzen chips maybe able to run higher memory so it doesn't hurt to get a kit that will give you the option down the line.

Jamin280672 · 22 Jan 2024 at 21:03

Joxeon said:
That maybe true now but in a gen or two ryzen chips maybe able to run higher memory so it doesn't hurt to get a kit that will give you the option down the line.

Ryzen can run higher memory now, I often switch between 2 different profiles I have set, one being 6400 and the other being 8000, depends what im doing, but me (along with plenty of others) have tried with every bios update to get 6600 stable 1:1, it doesnt matter how much voltage you pump into the sticks, ive tried upto 1.75v, or IMC, or how reasonably loose you make the timings, its just not possible, and 6600 2:1 doesnt yeild any performance benefit, my kit by the way is a 7800 kit, and I brought it to play.

Joxeon · 22 Jan 2024 at 22:41

They may improve the IMC in newer gen chips though which will allow for a higher 1:1 in the future, the same happened with AM4 where some of the later gen chips were capable of 3800~4000mhz 1-1 while the first couple of gen’s struggle to get over 3200mhz.

Jamin280672 · 22 Jan 2024 at 23:10

Joxeon said:
They may improve the IMC in newer gen chips though which will allow for a higher 1:1 in the future, the same happened with AM4 where some of the later gen chips were capable of 3800~4000mhz 1-1 while the first couple of gen’s struggle to get over 3200mhz.

Yes true

Blackwhite · 17 Feb 2024 at 17:04

As someone mentions. There is no point go higher than 6000 MHz for AM5

Audioboxer · 18 Feb 2024 at 15:44

Biggest issue on AM5 is a total lack of 2 DIMM boards. AMD have made good progress with AGESA but 4 DIMM boards really add extra strain on the Ryzen 7000 IMCs.

If you snag a 2 DIMM board you'll have a good chance of making DDR5 sing if your IMC is at least decent (6000~6200 easily, 6400 1:1 if your IMC is good and then 8000 in 2:1 is easier than 6400).

The Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 punches so far above its weight right now it's not funny. Not sure OCUK sell it though.

I've got a X670E GENE myself, stupidly overpriced board lol.