Motability scheme is changing

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Why are people on benefits driving round in twenty-five grand cars, when I've worked for twenty years and am driving round in a two grand focus?

Because as has been said, you probably don't absolutely rely on your car for the most simple trips out?
Nor, I'm guessing do you have any impairment that means you can't fit into any/all cars?

I can fit into an old style mini (barely) if need be, likewise I can get into most any car that can physically fit a 6'2" body, and it's not the end of the world (or potentially life threatening) if it breaks down.

My mother, is shorter than me, but stuggles a lot to get into many standard cars because of hip issues (multiple ops that have all failed), as an example.

However you try getting someone with a wheelchair into many cars, especially if you're expecting the one vehicle to be both suitable for someone with a disability, and for normal family life - seriously, try getting just a manual wheelchair into many cars, then consider how hard it could be for someone with back/hip/leg issues to get into many cars (either due to height, door opening size or other basic consideration), before you even take into account that many disabled people that do drive require auto's or modifications that either limit the choice of vehicles that are suitable, or raise the price.


I'll also say, once again, you don't own a motorbility car, you lease it with it taking your Disability Living Allowance, Mobility component (higher rate), plus any necessary upfront additional payments.
It's basically a lease/hire scheme that is tailored for people with disabilities to let them get reliable cars that are suitable for them (and the easiest way to do that, is to offer a wide range).

It does it a Zero extra cost to the government over and above the Mobility Allowance (which you can get regardless of if you use it for a Motorbility car or not) in most cases*, because:
A: It's restricted in the people it offers the cars to.
B: It's non profit - any money made is put back into it rather than paying off shareholders.
C: It's a big scheme, which means it can get the cars for much less than "book" a lot of the time.
D: Many of the car manufacturers work hard to get cars into the scheme as it does them good in terms of sales figures, PR and advertising (and the theoretical requirements for a dealer to be an official Motorbility approved dealership require they have specifically trained and named contacts as well as guaranteed loan cars/pickup/dropoff for cars that are being services etc** from memory).


*I believe there are specific government funds available to adapt vehicles where there is a major medical/occupational health need and no suitable vehicle (IE where you might need a tail lift or hand controls).

**I vaguely remember when my mother had a car under the scheme the local dealership were willing to get a suitable loan car in from another dealer if needed.
 
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Just like the Disability card displayed in the car is abused. That needs sorting too

It's abused, but not as much as I think is made out in many cases, and the potential fines are pretty bad.

It's also worth noting you can get a disabled parking badge and not have a motorbility car (the badge is issued for the use of a specific person only).

I have however said for a while there are some very, very cheap and easy to implement ways to check badges to see if they are lost/stolen, at the moment it relies on a serial number and expirary date on one side of the card (that is visible) along with the issuing authority and a hologram, then on the back side the information is repeated along with the name and picture of the person it's issued to.
The whole thing is then sealed in a security marked laminate.

The most effective, simple measure I would add to it would cost nothing per card, bar a bit of ink.
A machine readable 3d barcode of the sort everything from pringles to Computer hardware boxes have.

Issue the Traffic wardens with a PDA (or even just an android smartphone) with the right app, and they can use the camera to read the barcode automatically an flash up a "valid", "invalid", "lost" or "stolen" message based on the databases the issuing authorities keep (at the moment they manually compare lists of the serial numbers), with the list updated ether every night, or automatically every X hours (the reason for a smartphone being used*).

I'm looking forward to seeing what the new cards they're issuing from 2012 on look like, as apparently they are much more advanced than the current card + laminator approach, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them using tech similar to the Driving Licence cards but larger (apparently the new badges are going to be plastic from what I recall).


*Besides the fact that the smartphone is probably a lot cheaper than the normal specialised, single purpose, highly customised, limited PDA's that usually seem to be used.
 
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Complaining about getting a 25k car instead of a 40k one is petty in my opinion. None of the reasoning I've heard against the change makes sense. You can still get a nice car for 25k. It's not like the scheme is being abandoned.
 
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I am not even sure the £25k limit still applies, it is not mentioned in the atest statement on Motability's website.
The new revised "rules" appear to be more sensible and in a few days we will find out exactly what will be and will not be available.
 
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I must admit im kinda envious of the chappie i know that has taken a brand new 320d m sport, due to his daughter. The lad is one of lifes wasters, never tried hard in life always took the easy option, but has a nice shiney beemer every 3 years.

They dont even use it for the daughter, they get a taxi provided by the hospital to take to hospital, and she goes on a minibus to the special school. To me thats a abuse of the system, is it not?

But, at the end of the day, the abuse is not of the motability scheme, more the dla i guess, if a person is willing to stump up the deposit, then why not?
 
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