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Very interesting, although I don't understand why you quoted me; you have answered neither of my two questions.
Scientology to be Criminally Charged in Belgium
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Yes, I did, although I can summarise for you:
1. Most Apostolic religions including Islam and Christianity have at times preached violence to further their reach, power and interests. However, anyone who followed them, whether they belonged to a terrorist organisation or was the head of a democratic state, exploited the preaching of religion to justify violence which was perpetrated in order to further his group's interests. Scientology, on the other hand, is constructed from the ground up on the credo (preserved in writing in L. Ron Hubbard's books) that Scientologsts may use any means at their disposal including violence to further their interests or harm those who oppose their faith. They do it on the sly and threaten anyone who can expose them with harassment, violence or worse, instead of going on Al Jazeera and shouting it out, and when they go on camera they wear designer suits rather than robes, but they're still just as inclined to violence as extremist Jihadist groups. What makes them even more dangerous is that they don't need a political or ideological incentive to incite them to violence: according to their credo, anyone who criticises Scientology is fair game.
2. If certain individuals, organisations, or states exploit the appeal of a religion to exploit the faithful by getting them to do further their political or economic interests for them through violence, that does not necessarilly represent the official view of the religion. With Scientology you have a religion which officially endorses and encourages these acts, they're just good at stopping outsiders from hearing about it.
1. Most Apostolic religions including Islam and Christianity have at times preached violence to further their reach, power and interests. However, anyone who followed them, whether they belonged to a terrorist organisation or was the head of a democratic state, exploited the preaching of religion to justify violence which was perpetrated in order to further his group's interests. Scientology, on the other hand, is constructed from the ground up on the credo (preserved in writing in L. Ron Hubbard's books) that Scientologsts may use any means at their disposal including violence to further their interests or harm those who oppose their faith. They do it on the sly and threaten anyone who can expose them with harassment, violence or worse, instead of going on Al Jazeera and shouting it out, and when they go on camera they wear designer suits rather than robes, but they're still just as inclined to violence as extremist Jihadist groups. What makes them even more dangerous is that they don't need a political or ideological incentive to incite them to violence: according to their credo, anyone who criticises Scientology is fair game.
2. If certain individuals, organisations, or states exploit the appeal of a religion to exploit the faithful by getting them to do further their political or economic interests for them through violence, that does not necessarilly represent the official view of the religion. With Scientology you have a religion which officially endorses and encourages these acts, they're just good at stopping outsiders from hearing about it.
so yeah quoting a nutjob ex-nazi pagan-revival reactionary anti-christian murderer (who makes terrible electronic music) in an attempt to bolster an argument is a pretty silly thing to do imo
It doesn't matter, what he said has some values to it.
Also the only terrible electronic music is because he can't use other instruments in prison, the stuff before prison is rather good.
I'm not surprised he murdered the guy, after all the other guy was going to torture and kill him. (Also the guy he killed reached for a knife before Varg did anything)
Oh well just read it here;
http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a_burzum_story02.shtml
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When I saw that, I thought it very appropriate as it is not a question of who scientologists 'pray' too, but more a case of who they 'prey' on!
Scientology is not a religion of the soul, it is a religion of the pocket.
You don't 'pray' for peace of mind, you quite literally 'pay' for peace of mind and then you prey on those also looking for it.
Scientology is a full front assault on the somewhat (in my eyes) naive beliefs of others that there is some intangible truth in this life or at the end of it that will unify all your thoughts and feelings into one simple and euphoric answer.
Hell is just an afterthought for all those who didn't do you good (more of an epilogue).
Scientology comes from a group of people bent on cashing in on the biggest thing they could find. It is one of the many bad child's of a world embracing the freedom of people to do whatever they want......to make money within the somewhat confusing boundaries of the law.
If you go to London and probably other places in the world (that I haven't been to!) they have high-street shops.
Have you ever seen a 'religion' selling itself in something that looks like a holiday store? They even have merchandise out front (and probably Tom Cruise action figures one day).
The difference is, those are people going alone, not the religion themselves. You'll get bad people in any walk of life. Religion is no diffrent.
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They did condone it because they covered it up. That amounts to the same thing.
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Which half?
They locked a woman in a hotel room, when she tried to quit, she died of malnutrition, infection and was half eaten by cockroaches.
Yes it is... They prey on the emotionally weak. Then take all the money they have for their outrageous beliefs.
I'm all for letting people believe what they want, but Scientology is nothing more than a stupid Cult, a Rich stupid cult. They shouldn't have been allowed to get this far.
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Has anybody still got that link to a sworn statement by an ex Scientologist who got to a very high level?
That was quite an interesting read.
He reckoned that when you got to the top level where Tom Cruise is, you are told its all a sham.
Like we didn't know.
That was quite an interesting read.
He reckoned that when you got to the top level where Tom Cruise is, you are told its all a sham.
Like we didn't know.
Why is it that when ever a religion does something bad it isn't because of the religion but because people do bad things on occassion. But when a religion does something good it is because of the religion and not because people do good things on occassion?
Xenu is real. I have proof http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/5tokesy/Xenu.gif
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So my new belief/religion involves burning children at a stake as a sacrifice to my one true god..........................yeah right.
All religion is is an excuse to start wars.
How do you know that any of it is real? Lets face it its only documented from years and years ago. It could all be made up by a few, a story, a fable a childs nursery rhyme