Smoking in your car could now get you points and fine!!!
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what is the risk of smoking whilst driving? what % of crashes has it cause? Next to none. Therefore it doesn't need it's own law. every distraction should simply come under driving without due care and attention. So yes it is stupid and yes it is yet another freedom and nanny state law.
Thats the problem, a lot of people are agreeing with this, simply as there pst time eating/drinking has been included for a while. What people should be doing is disagreeing for both smoking, stereo, eating, drinkingetc etc etc
it isnt a seperate law, it does come under driving without due care and attention
and the smoking addition is a clarification which can be used by the police if they think it is affecting your driving, a bit tough on smokers, but if it helps nail more bad drivers i'm for it.
Vanilla said:
My point was that i think even if you scoured the country you'd struggle to find anyone who has ever been done for drinking soft drinks at the wheel, where it hasnt led to a crash or similar
if you were to get done by a cop on a bad day i dont think they actually could without proving that it had affected your driving (which sitting at red traffic lights it would be pretty tricky for it to)
when you get hungry you can pull into a service station or a shop and get something to eat. But with new smoking laws smokers cant smoke in public buildings anymore so we smoke in our cars.
but it's an extension to the law which isn't need and could be abused. Either there driving with out due care and attention or there not. So why doe we need a deffinition of all these inclusions.
Imo very stupid, although I'm not a smoker all these european countries are taking away all freedoms 
, should stop wasting time on rubbish and oncentrate on the more important stuff like defence, safety ( not car safety but safety on the street) and infrastructure ( Uk definatly needs new roads with all the jam's I've seen.)
What's next, some kind of device that drives for you?
A ban for any music or talking in your car?
Stupid anti motoring governements.
, should stop wasting time on rubbish and oncentrate on the more important stuff like defence, safety ( not car safety but safety on the street) and infrastructure ( Uk definatly needs new roads with all the jam's I've seen.)What's next, some kind of device that drives for you?
A ban for any music or talking in your car?
Stupid anti motoring governements.
Yeah, that is a bummer to be honest. I think it all boils down to getting people to quit.
If everyone quits then where is the gov going to get the money that they loose from tabacco?
Isnt 90% of a pack of cigs tax which goes straight to the gov?
EDIT: http://www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=10
The tax raised through the sale of tobacco products continues to be a major source of revenue for the Government, contributing around £10 billion annually. This is, according to the Treasury, equivalent to almost 3 pence on the basic rate of income tax or 12 pence on the top rate of income tax.
This policy has resulted in taxes on tobacco products in the UK being amongst the highest in the world and comfortably ahead of those in other EU Member States. For example, the price of a typical pack of cigarettes in the UK is currently (Jan 2007) £5.33 while in Belgium the price is about £2.70 and in Spain its around £1.60. Prices in many of the newer Member States are even lower. (Click here for full details of EU cigarette prices.) The difference in the price of handrolling tobacco (HRT) is even more marked. A 50g pouch costing £10.80 in the UK can be bought in Belgium for less than £3.
^^ RIP OFF STATE TOO!!!!
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Its something like that, but on the other hand it probs all goes back into the NHS for smoking related illnesses
Its something like that, but on the other hand it probs all goes back into the NHS for smoking related illnesses
Personally, i dont know anyone who has been in hospital or is in hospital due to smoking. And thats no exageration.
Its something like that, but on the other hand it probs all goes back into the NHS for smoking related illnesses
I doubt it's anywhere near it, it probably isn't even 10%
so no more than 17%
Someone who smokes costs the NHS less in a life time than someone who does not smoke (and thus lives longer and has a more drawn out, problematic aging).Its something like that, but on the other hand it probs all goes back into the NHS for smoking related illnesses
Us Smokers will not be able to defend your individual rights after we have been trodden into the ground.
Your money will be what is used after the tax collected on fags has dried up.
They will then move on to there next oppresive gesturing BS. I hope it's nothing that inconveniences you all, Or do i.
Your money will be what is used after the tax collected on fags has dried up.
They will then move on to there next oppresive gesturing BS. I hope it's nothing that inconveniences you all, Or do i.
Us drinkers are next in line, they have already started as smoking si winding down.
how can people not see there rights being eroded. Sod
global warming
terrorists
Nuclear war
And what ever else the newspapers like to scare us with..
It's the government we need protecting from.
Do they have to prove it affected your driving?
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You can stop by the side of the road and then slowly kill yourself without risking others.
