Royal Mail Strike Action

They walk around and stick letters (and annoying advertising crap) in people's letterboxes (very occasionally the correct one), there's no skill or specialist training involved as the pre-requisite appears to be the ability to carry a bag and read english, that's a minimum wage job if ever I saw one.

What a load of tosh! :rolleyes: Can I ask your age and what you do for a living?
 
Almost £17k is a lot for a totally unskilled job.

Personally, I think the strikes are pathetic. Other companies manage to work out pension and mass redundancy issues without striking and losing themselves more money, so I don't see why RM can't do the same. I remember about 5 years ago, the company my mum works for had to get rid of thousands of members of staff through redundancy and early retirement (both voluntary and forced). No-one was happy about it, but they understood that any company actually trying to pay their staff has to make sure they are actually making a profit.

It’s not £17k far from it, the ones earning that much aren’t regular posties or are doing 45/50Hrs PW and just about killing themselves,
 
No,


I cant belive I am debating my job like were the witch in the Village.
I was merely asking why you thought the given description of your job was "utter tosh".

Given that many of you work long, arduous hours; do you do more then post letters? Do you require extensive, expensive training? Do you not post advertising material through peoples letterboxes? Is the ability to read not a pre-requisite, or is this covered in training?
 
RM workers aren't that bad off, try telling your woes to a loader in a warehouse on a few pence over minimum wage - 8 hours shifts chucking 15kg parcels into a truck is a harder work than most postal jobs.

Posties may get the bad weather, but they also get the good weather, factory / warehouse workers sweat to death in the summer and freeze in the winter.

On the whole I can see why postal workers strike - they've got one of the best unskilled jobs in the UK and they want to keep hold of what they have.
 
On the whole I can see why postal workers strike - they've got one of the best unskilled jobs in the UK and they want to keep hold of what they have.

And a Union. A lot of people work longer, for less pay and can't do anything about it because they can't join a union, or don't have one backing them up.
 
no, true, but pity they are opposed to changes that will improve the system, modernise it, increase its speed etc


You fool! :D

It's not going to improve the service! The changes Royal Mail intend to bring in will move deliveries to a later time, within a few years it may be delivery between 9am and 5pm. That way it will be easier to use all the imigrants to deliver the post that we have here. So some people may find their post dumped or delivered by temps, who should they feel oh **** this i'm leaving won't be likely to be reprimanded unless they are caught at the time. It has happened before where post was discovered dumped months later by temps, too late then to prove who it was.

As for modernisation does that mean postman are paid for the petrol they use in their own cars?? Or does this mean Royal Mail intend to buy vehicles for use on delivery?? Jesus Christ!! If thats the case the postage will go up to MODERN prices or about 50p for a first class stamp!

Damn! I'd better post my Christmas cards NOW!! Before modernisation kicks in! :)

If you had to compare this modernisation to a broadband provider you would have to say it would be:

TalkTalk or Orange


I can't wait to see what great service we look forward to.


I don't really think your a fool, but don't believe everything you hear in the media. :)
 
I don't get it. I work in a skilled and reasonably paid job. If I didn't turn up to work, I'd be sacked.

Why do other industries have workers who think that not turning up to work is an acceptible thing to do, and why is it accepted?

This isn't a troll, it's a serious question. My employer is doing me a service by employing me and helping pay for my food and bills. I provide a service in return. If my employer has no more use for me, I can find work elsewhere. Why isn't this true here, and how come I'm the one who is negatively affected by not having any mail delivered?
 
I was merely asking why you thought the given description of your job was "utter tosh".

Given that many of you work long, arduous hours; do you do more then post letters? Do you require extensive, expensive training? Do you not post advertising material through peoples letterboxes? Is the ability to read not a pre-requisite, or is this covered in training?

Yes we actually have to sort the mail out into the fitting which can take around 2hrs or so, this takes about 1/2Months to learn, this is done every day & is the first job you usually do, you have to prep the mail etc make sure it’s all sorted into bags, (my walk there is 7 bags which weigh roughly 20Kgs each not including all the packets) if you look at the advertising most of it will be addressed those that are not we get paid for, you should only receive this once per week, sort the redirects out etc the list goes on its just not about 'walking & posting a letter' a lot of preparation goes into each walk!
 
Yes we actually have to sort the mail out into the fitting which can take around 2hrs or so, this takes about 1/2Months to learn, this is done every day & is the first job you usually do, you have to prep the mail etc make sure it’s all sorted into bags, (my walk there is 7 bags which weigh roughly 20Kgs each not including all the packets) if you look at the advertising most of it will be addressed those that are not we get paid for, you should only receive this once per week, sort the redirects out etc the list goes on its just not about 'walking & posting a letter' a lot of preparation goes into each walk!

LOL, it's hardly brain surgery and let's be honest, most of the time mail is late, misdelivered or damaged, as I said, minimum wage work.
 
Why are you so bitter? I dont get it! get sacked?

Of course I wasn't a postman, jeez, give me some credit. (I am actually over 30 though) but unlike your average post man, I worked hard my entire life to better myself and get a satisfying, well paid job which doesn't require me to stuff flyers through people's letter boxes at whichever hour I choose.
 
Yes we actually have to sort the mail out into the fitting which can take around 2hrs or so, this takes about 1/2Months to learn, this is done every day & is the first job you usually do, you have to prep the mail etc make sure it’s all sorted into bags, (my walk there is 7 bags which weigh roughly 20Kgs each not including all the packets) if you look at the advertising most of it will be addressed those that are not we get paid for, you should only receive this once per week, sort the redirects out etc the list goes on its just not about 'walking & posting a letter' a lot of preparation goes into each walk!
Which does nothing to prove it's not an unskilled job. And, as an unskilled job, the pay is good.

How on earth does it take 2 months to learn how to sort mail? Mind you, given the amount of incorrectly delivered mail, maybe RM need to update their training procedures.

Granted, it's physically demanding, that does not make it skilled.
 
hahaha, my job is just has hard as yours and i spend just as much time on my feet (i'm not a shelf stacker, i was for 6 months before doing my knee), so get a grip if you think my job is so totally easier than yours, and i get paid poor wages compared with a posty, but we don't complain, we get on with it, because some money is better than no money ;) (btw, i've been solid at the same job for over two years now, gone through my fair share of problems including losing wages to the incompetance of the pay role staff, losing out on holidays because they can't afford to let me have them off, over 40 hour weeks when we were short staffed, damaging my knee due to the hard conditions etc etc etc, don't try to lecture me you arogant berk)

I'm not a Postman, I have a good job, but, for the record I have been both a postman and a shelf stacker in my life and I know which is harder.

If you think working more than 40 hours a week or not getting your wages on time is a 'problem' you've got a wake up call in the pipeline sonny. You've been a whole 2 years in the job? Well pardon me for questioning your credentials, you deserve a bravery medal, the kind they give to spazs for dragging themselves from hoplessness all the way up to mediocrity.
 
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