Driving test in own car...

Dashik said:
Your missing my point and I suspect I'm not being very clear either. Forums arnt the best at times.

You need to make sure your insurance covers taking the test. A lot of insurance companies will not cover this automatically and charge more for it.
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You are missing his point. He is not discussing insurance.
 
Clarkey said:
like I say, i've driven loads in my car, am perfectly confident that I can go out for a drive without incident, still a little anxious about a test though. On the test i'm on my own, passenger is there not to give advice, but to scrutinize, so it's different, will be alright though.

Also, Muncher is it you that works in insurance? If so I'll take your word over any 'ADI', I firmly believe they are all out to string you along at some level or another.
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LOL, thats a laugh at least with a decent ADI you get something for your money lol. What would an insurance guy know about teaching people to drive? Just because you can drive as an individual does not mean you can teach etc.

You try and point out some bit of useful info and you think I'm against you or something. Far from it. If your capable of passing then go for it. Just make sure you have a legal, properly insured car for the test.

Tell you what. Do what you like, you obviously know best. You can win lol.

Fortunatly I wont have to sit in a car with you.
 
Muncher said:
Which capacity are they not supervising you in? If they are not supervising you for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act then ever single person who sits a test is committing an offence and is liable for 3-6 points.
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Wheres the supervision? They are there to examien your driving and if theres a potential danger end the test if neccesary. You get no help or advice.

Its a strange area as on the one hand you would think they were there to supervise and examine but ask any examiner and they will tell you they are not. Hence my point about insurance on tests.
 
Dashik said:
Wheres the supervision? They are there to examien your driving and if theres a potential danger end the test if neccesary. You get no help or advice.
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so, you are telling me that an examiner would just sit there and keep quiet even if I led them into a situation of great danger?
 
Clarkey said:
want to start a fight in my thread eh, how stereotypically scottish. FWIW, i'm glad I don't have to sit in a car with you either.
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Thats racist ;) what has being Scottish to do with it?

No I was not trying to start a fight lol, was actually trying to help and make sure when you went for your test that you did not do something daft by omission. Oh and serioiusly try the Arnold Clarke Dual control car on test. Its only £10 per hour.

You are missing out lol. I'm a seriously good ADI. Ask my pupils! Over 90% of my tests are 1st time passes.
 
Clarkey said:
so, you are telling me that an examiner would just sit there and keep quiet even if I led them into a situation of great danger?
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No they would brake and stop the car end of test. Either that or stop it well before you got to that point if you have no dual controls.
 
[TW]Fox;10229465 said:
It's specified in the Road Traffic Act.

Lets break this down a bit.

Can a learner driver drive without being supervised, whilst wearing L plates, on a provisional license?
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Only on test with the proper insurance. Or on private land witht he owners permission.
 
Could you please point me to the peice of legislation which says a learner may drive a car on a public road unsupervised provided they are on a test and hold the proper insurance?
 
Dashik said:
No they would brake and stop the car end of test. Either that or stop it well before you got to that point if you have no dual controls.
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so they would allow me to continue and crash if I had no dual controls and not quite assertively tell me to stop?
This is silly talk anyway, nobody is going to crash into anything I am not stupid.
 
[TW]Fox;10229492 said:
Could you please point me to the peice of legislation which says a learner may drive a car on a public road unsupervised provided they are on a test and hold the proper insurance?
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Fox, now your splitting hairs. I'm sure you know full well the point I'm trying to make. You have to make sure your insurance covers you taking a test if you do it in your own car. MY insurance as an ADI specifically covers pupils on test amoungst others. I'm an ADI not a Lawyer and if you know better then fine.

The tone of this is not going the way I intended. Its looking more and more like I have an axe to grind when in fact I do not. I am merely making a few points in what I thought was a helpful manner.

I shall go and get some advice from the SEADI and post the reply tommorow.

But even if I was wrong what harm would it do to suggest the OP checks his insurance before he goes for his test? Or to suggest that he does it in a dual controlled car even if he has to hire one specifically?
 
Clarkey said:
so they would allow me to continue and crash if I had no dual controls and not quite assertively tell me to stop?
This is silly talk anyway, nobody is going to crash into anything I am not stupid.
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And your trying to tell me theres been no accidents on tests?

The DSA is currently reviewing the test and learning to drive in general and an end to tests without duals is high on the list of propesed changes. Why do you think that is?

The fact is the failure rates for tests without dual controlled cars are substantially higher as the examiners take action a lot earlier than they would in cars with duals.

Personally I thought that would be a useful peice of info for you but no you think all ADI's are robbers lol.

Its free help from an experianced ADI who gives a monkeys about his pupils and young people learning to drive in general. Nothing more. Ignore it if you like.
 
Clarkey said:
you seem adamant about this so i'll ask them, but I can't see how i'd not be covered.
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Look, I'm not saying your policy does not cover you but my experiance is that they dont cover you for tests. It surely wont hurt to check will it?

Also see about taking the test in a car with duals. Arnold Clarke hire the corsa for £10 per hour. Call the Test center or any ADI in the book and ask if they would prefer the candidate has Dual controls in the car on test.
 
Dashik said:
The fact is the failure rates for tests without dual controlled cars are substantially higher as the examiners take action a lot earlier than they would in cars with duals.
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What action do you mean? How can they take action if they have no controls? This is a genuine question I'm not trying to be funny with you.
 
Clarkey said:
What action do you mean? How can they take action if they have no controls? This is a genuine question I'm not trying to be funny with you.
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Thats ok. If they think theres a problem developing they will terminate the test asap. So lets say you are peeping and creeping out of a closed junction.

However your observations are not good. The examiner with dual controls may well wait until you start to move off in front of the big scary bus and use the dual control brake to stop you. You have the chance to at least look again and spot the bus and not go. the examine will wait as long as is safe before taking action.

Equally if you have no duals they will tell you to stop if you dont look like you are taking good observations a lot sooner then in the above situation by which time if you are already moving off it may be to late.

Does that make sense?
 
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