Royal Mail Strike Action

They have my best interests at heart and they have my support.

And whose best interests do you have at heart? What about your customers?

If the newly proposed strikes for next week go ahead, it is going to have a devastating affect for the Royal Mail and the economy.
 
Replace men with machines with the money their largest shareholder has given them. :eek:


Yes replace 50 men with a machine then require 5 IT guys to manage it paid 10X the salary.

:D


Contract it out to IT because it 'looks better' in your ABB books :D
 
As a delivery postman these are just some of the things that I will have to put up with under these proposals. Theres not one mention of a machine!

In any other industry (or, any non unionised industry/sector), if you aren't happy with your job, you look elsewhere.

I saw a RM employee on the news, his complaint was that he wasn't guaranteed a job in 10 years time. Waken the **** up; 99% of jobs have little or no long term security, nor do they need it. If you aren't happy, look for work elsewhere.
 
I've got a "failed delivery" notice this morning even though I was in the house! Must've not heard him tap on the door. Although at the mo you can't do the "resend my package" on the RM site as they aren't reactivating it until tomorrow! (unless I'm just being blind)
 
Robots on delivery eh?

Or do you mean in the mail centres? Or out on the road? Where? What?

Come on, don't generalise! AFAIC you're just using buzz words that have little or no substance.

As a delivery postman these are just some of the things that I will have to put up with under these proposals. Theres not one mention of a machine!

That's odd, the cheif exec was on radio this morning saying the biggest problem was that the unions didn't want RM staff to work full days for a full days pay. If you knock off early you finish your round early you can claim overtime for then going into work - even though you're meant to be working anyway.
 
That's odd, the cheif exec was on radio this morning saying the biggest problem was that the unions didn't want RM staff to work full days for a full days pay. If you knock off early you finish your round early you can claim overtime for then going into work - even though you're meant to be working anyway.
I wouldn't beleive a word that that hatchet man says, he's the guy who will bring this great service to it's knees.

And if it was Leighton then he's a hypocrite. He works two days a week for more money than I get in a year.
 
Todd - I don't mean to be nasty mate but the way the RM is going and like it or not it is partly down to the workers and the work ethic they have I can see the RM being broken up in a couple of years at most. I seriously doubt most people would even notice, never mind care if it did.

I don't know anyone who's on the workers side over the current strike, but then again I don't know anyone who works in the RM.
 
Royal Mail said:
Royal Mail regrets the impact of the latest strike and apologises to our customers for the disruption this has caused. Talks between Royal Mail and the CWU continue, so we are very disappointed that the CWU has announced more strikes for the week commencing Monday 15th October.
 
Todd - I don't mean to be nasty mate but the way the RM is going and like it or not it is partly down to the workers and the work ethic they have I can see the RM being broken up in a couple of years at most. I seriously doubt most people would even notice, never mind care if it did.
Another great British Institution down the pan eh!
 
That's odd, the cheif exec was on radio this morning saying the biggest problem was that the unions didn't want RM staff to work full days for a full days pay. If you knock off early you finish your round early you can claim overtime for then going into work - even though you're meant to be working anyway.

The Royal Mail basically want to disincentivise the Post Men from working quickly an efficiently. Right now what happens is when the Post Man has finished his round he can go home, so he does it very quickly and effectively, sometimes even using his own vehicle. RM want to stop that, so the Post Man will just do the round in the allotted time. Why shouldn't staff be rewarded for good performance? How does this benefit the consumer? It doesn't - just makes Royal Mail management feel like the big man because they've shafted the little guy.

I wonder if people would think competition was so wonderful if all Royal Mail's competitors were forced to deliver letters to all parts of the country as well as just the profitable routes?
 
The Royal Mail basically want to disincentivise the Post Men from working quickly an efficiently. Right now what happens is when the Post Man has finished his round he can go home, so he does it very quickly and effectively, sometimes even using his own vehicle. RM want to stop that, so the Post Man will just do the round in the allotted time. Why shouldn't staff be rewarded for good performance? How does this benefit the consumer? It doesn't - just makes Royal Mail management feel like the big man because they've shafted the little guy.

I wonder if people would think competition was so wonderful if all Royal Mail's competitors were forced to deliver letters to all parts of the country as well as just the profitable routes?

Nonsense.

Postmen are paid for a shift, i.e. 8 hours. If they complete their round in <8 hours, they should be required to do other duties to make up the full shift.

And they don't complete early by being efficient, they do so by ******* up deliveries. I've had trouble with RM wherever I've lived, useless *****.
 
Nonsense.

Postmen are paid for a shift, i.e. 8 hours. If they complete their round in <8 hours, they should be required to do other duties to make up the full shift.

And they don't complete early by being efficient, they do so by ******* up deliveries. I've had trouble with RM wherever I've lived, useless *****.

Many postmen use their own vehicles to do their deliveries - something that lets them finish the shift early but costs them a significant amount* (and saves RM a fair bit in overtime and paying for official vehicles).
In a couple of areas where the postmen have been working to the wording of the contract (basically working as if the new contract was in place) the postal service has suffered massively and cost RM a huge amount to bring in additional personal.
Something to do with the fact that it might take a postie X hours to do his normal rounds in full using a car, but X+Y hours if he has to do it on foot/by bike and make multiple additional trips back to the sorting office.

It's surprising how badly RM needs the goodwill of it's workforce to get the shifts done on time, let alone early (as happens at the moment).




*IIRC it requires the postie to have full business use insurance (rather than domestic and commuting).
 
And they don't complete early by being efficient, they do so by ******* up deliveries. I've had trouble with RM wherever I've lived, useless *****.
So you think that the postman would chuck all his mail in the canal to get home early do you?

I can assure you that the former is correct and we're now being penalised for being efficient. The whole 8hr shift idea was compromised in the past with job and finish. This is simply an example of RM management wanting their cake and eating it.
 
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