Been told my current Hifi is crap, need advice

daz · 8 Oct 2007 at 21:07

james.miller said:
nope. two seperate inputs. one for the sub, one for the rest of the drivers, using a passive crossover inside the speaker to feed the mid and tweeters no doubt

If there's just a single + and - per speaker, that's just one signal... It's all I could see in the pic.

Anyway, like I said earlier technical details like that should be irrelevent compared to how it sounds though.

Edinho · 8 Oct 2007 at 22:38

Ultra_Extreme said:
Dude you have a stero that looks like the starship F£$£"$£" enterprise. Ie it doesn't F£%£^ fly does it? Even a vahxhall sodding corsa would beat the starship enterpise on account that its a sodding real thing that works.

My point being you've got some toysRus stereo that looks like it belongs in the bedroom of a furiously masturbating spectacled boy in an arsnal vest. Grown ups have component systems that look sleek and subtle, tweeters seperate from subs, speakers that dont look like they have been sent back from the future to kill john connor.

Get a grip of yourself man! People are trying to help!

ROFL

here you go http://www.meyersound.com/support/papers/amp_power.htm

Why I said that its a complex issue you probably need a engineering or physics degree to understand it. Like I said before these types of systems are aimed at people shopping in Argos where the only thing that matters is the number of flashing lights and a figure on the display claiming it will output 1000 gigawatts.

Anyway book a demo and if your system beats an entry level seperates then we will all hold our hands up. But it wont and we wont. Guaranteed.

9designs2 · 8 Oct 2007 at 22:50

Ultra_Extreme said:
Dude you have a stero that looks like the starship F£$£"$£" enterprise. Ie it doesn't F£%£^ fly does it? Even a vahxhall sodding corsa would beat the starship enterpise on account that its a sodding real thing that works.

My point being you've got some toysRus stereo that looks like it belongs in the bedroom of a furiously masturbating spectacled boy in an arsnal vest. Grown ups have component systems that look sleek and subtle, tweeters seperate from subs, speakers that dont look like they have been sent back from the future to kill john connor.

Get a grip of yourself man! People are trying to help!

ROF-PMSL !!!!

Thank you for making it worth reading past the first 30 posts !!!.......

Do you think the message has got through yet !?!

Anyway my 100 watts are bigger than other 100watts because mine are "active" .....

LOL

TomO · 8 Oct 2007 at 22:54

9designs2 said:
ROF-PMSL !!!!

Thank you for making it worth reading past the first 30 posts !!!.......

Do you think the message has got through yet !?!

Anyway my 100 watts are bigger than other 100watts because mine are "active" ..... LOL

Mine are Krell watts - do they win?

badbob · 8 Oct 2007 at 22:55

I've got 2.3Kw of power (into 8ohm, 0.05% THD, all channels driven) :-)

daz · 8 Oct 2007 at 23:06

I think my Musical Fidelity A1 is 20W per channel RMS.

9designs2 · 8 Oct 2007 at 23:09

TomO said:
Mine are Krell watts - do they win?

badbob said:
I've got 2.3Kw of power (into 8ohm, 0.05% THD, all channels driven)

Hmm not sure guys

... factor in the distortion caused by the passive crossovers in your speakers, and the fact that a typical crossover will loose 30% and upwards of the input signal as losses....

I guess with 2.3KW, you can turn the central heating down !!! LOL

SideWinder · 9 Oct 2007 at 16:42

badbob:Whats your setup mate?

.one. · 9 Oct 2007 at 19:01

I think this thread is a wind up it must be.
i realy dont mean to be insulting but when i saw the picture of the back of the speakers ie: the quality i nearly spat my tea out.
like i said sorry if it offends but come on please,we all get it wrong in the beginning but surley it can be seen to anyone.it's just junk.

thats why i think he's on a wind up.

thx jay.

iBot · 9 Oct 2007 at 19:07

All in ones always blow
separates ***

-Ad- · 9 Oct 2007 at 21:14

SideWinder said:
badbob:Whats your setup mate?

The National Grid

james.miller · 9 Oct 2007 at 21:26

adfinni said:
The National Grid

and i bet thats just for his pre amp

-Ad- · 10 Oct 2007 at 01:29

james.miller said:
and i bet thats just for his pre amp

Hehe would love to see the monoblocks power needs, nuclear reactor ?

O just put on some dire straits brothers in arms and wow does this CD sound stunning, need to find some more bands like this.

james.miller · 10 Oct 2007 at 10:59

you should hear the sacd version, it really is something

9designs2 · 10 Oct 2007 at 12:40

james.miller said:
you should hear the sacd version, it really is something

Is it really ????
In the grand scheme of SQ I don't think the CD version was anything special. For sure it was "the" disc that launched the format in the eyes of the general public..... I have it on vinyl, and "20bit SBM" I think it's called.... Never moved me to try a SACD version.
The multi channel "surround" effect has not convinced me either.

Maybe it's the power conditioner that take 2.3KW !

badbob · 10 Oct 2007 at 12:46

700W subwoofer panel
4x 2 channel poweramps (75W per channel)
4x 2 channel poweramps (125W per channel)

True ratings, not 75W, 10% THD, into 6 OHM DIN, single channel only.

james.miller · 10 Oct 2007 at 12:56

9designs2 said:
Is it really ????
In the grand scheme of SQ I don't think the CD version was anything special. For sure it was "the" disc that launched the format in the eyes of the general public..... I have it on vinyl, and "20bit SBM" I think it's called.... Never moved me to try a SACD version.
The multi channel "surround" effect has not convinced me either.

I'd agree with that, there isnt much that lends itself to a multi channel conversion, save DSOTM and tubular bells lol. brothers in arms is pretty sutble with the surround steering and it works well. But i was actually refering to the 2 channel SACD layer - its very crisp and clean and a good improvement over the cd version. i dont suppose even playing the SACD layer that it sounds anywhere near as good as the cd would on your system though lol

gt_junkie · 10 Oct 2007 at 12:57

badbob said:
700W subwoofer panel
4x 2 channel poweramps (75W per channel)
4x 2 channel poweramps (125W per channel)

True ratings, not 75W, 10% THD, into 6 OHM DIN, single channel only.

Makes my measly 1.2kw pale into insignificance.

The irony is that living in a flat means i can only really listen at very low levels so as not to upset the neighbours. :rolleyes:

gt

gt_junkie · 10 Oct 2007 at 13:02

james.miller said:
But i was actually refering to the 2 channel SACD layer - its very crisp and clean and a good improvement over the cd version. i dont suppose even playing the SACD layer that it sounds anywhere near as good as the cd would on your system though lol

I'd agree. SACD can be very impressive.

Comparing my Sony SACD to my Cyrus CD7Q the presentation of the former is far smoother and more 'analogue'.

However, the Cyrus presents the music better IMO. It creates a more believeable soundstage and has a good deal more drive and power, but i suppose it should do when you consider it cost around 4-5x that of the Sony.

I'd love to hear one of the flagship SACD players. They must sound pretty awesome!

gt

james.miller · 10 Oct 2007 at 13:05

oh yeah im sure they do. i'm only using a ps3 to play mine, and its far from ideal when the ps3 doesnt output native DSD. at the moment, its having to transcode the DSD on the fly and output 2 channel 176.4khz PCM (5.1 with sacds). im sure if they worked on getting DSD bitstream working that it would be a marked improvement.