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swift pint was just an example that i thought a lot of people would relate to. im not a big drinker, infact the only time i drink really is people birthday parties etc as i can enjoy myself without a drink. i tend to go the cinema more than anything else.
i just dont see how people find being so tied down and restrictied in everything they do appealing, im commited to working 37 hours a week, why on earth would i want to restrict the remainder of my free time to looking after a kid? If i want to go for a meal its nice to have the option to go to somewere other than a place with a whacky warehouse strapped to the side of it and 50 other squarking kids.
as for my parents...i was an accident pure and simple. read into that and annalyse the phychology behind me not wanting kids all you want, however the reason i really dont want the things isnt because i was an accident
tizor - i see the wink at the end of your post so i will take it with a pinch of salt, but why will i grow up a very lonely man? is it a requirement that to have a girlfriend/wife/friends i need to have 2.4 children?
i just dont see how people find being so tied down and restrictied in everything they do appealing, im commited to working 37 hours a week, why on earth would i want to restrict the remainder of my free time to looking after a kid? If i want to go for a meal its nice to have the option to go to somewere other than a place with a whacky warehouse strapped to the side of it and 50 other squarking kids.
as for my parents...i was an accident pure and simple. read into that and annalyse the phychology behind me not wanting kids all you want, however the reason i really dont want the things isnt because i was an accident
tizor - i see the wink at the end of your post so i will take it with a pinch of salt, but why will i grow up a very lonely man? is it a requirement that to have a girlfriend/wife/friends i need to have 2.4 children?
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you sir will grow up a very lonely old man
No he won't - there are many, many women out there who share the same opinion as him.
[TW]Fox;10260228 said:No, he just has a different opinion to you, thats all
No, he has no clue, because he appears to be under the impression that having kids means kissing goodbye to any social life away from them. That is simply not true.
Despite having four kids, I still:
Go out for a pint.
Go out for full-on nights out on the ***.
Go to the cinema with the wife.
Go to car shows/track days etc.
Have several hobbies of my own.
The list goes on.
He seems to think that having kids is the end of your life as an individual, when the reality is that is not the case. Ergo, he doesn't have a clue.
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[TW]Fox;10260228 said:No, he just has a different opinion to you, thats all
Albeit in a minority. The fact he actually has an opinion like that one means he hasnt got a clue, not the fact it differs from Drexel's.
Anyone who counts popping out for a pint as a wonderful event is probably better off not diluting the gene pool.
[TW]Fox;10260348 said:
I must have missed that post, but there's no need for that to be the case. Yes, you do have less time and money, but there is no reason that having kids has to ruin any personal social life. Things just take a bit of forward planning, that's all.
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[TW]Fox;10260348 said:
Thats his opinion, although as a total one off for OCUK, its actually bases on experience.
Spare time or money to enjoy to himself is total different to one enjoying himself. He's hardly reaching for the anti-depressants is he. And theres more to life than playing with cars.
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[TW]Fox;10260348 said:
No, having kids leaves HIM no spare time or money to enjoy time to himself, time with his mates, or time to his enjoy his hobby of cars.
Just because it has killed his social life and hobbies doesn't mean that's the case for everyone.
Hell, even commuting 6 hours a day and returning home to the wife and kid didn't mean I never did all the thigs I did before. I just did them less frequently.
Some of us do manage quite well.
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... having kids is pointless and no one should do it. Would be awesome to see the world in 100 years
wow i see ive really rattled the cages of mr and mrs 2.4 children here. To me it would appear you guys are the narrow minded ones not being able to see that you DON'T have to have kids to live a wholesome and enjoyable life. Just because i dont want kids doesnt mean that i have no interest in my home and spend all my money on cars. Maybe its just a nagging feeling deep inside that the ones in this thread with kids and getting but darent admit it? Deep down they are wishing for freedom but know theyre commited for the next 18 years.
The opinions on this forum are very much the same as the ones ive seen of people ive met as well. The people with kids get very touchy when you mention the things they could do without kids and how things they choose to do wont be so limited.
If the gf and i decide to get a house with 0 children
we could live in a 2 bed semi, £100k, £400ppm mortgage, smaller bills, leaving more disposable income to enjoy on going on *heaven forbid* - spontanious holidays at the drop of a hat, a new car, clothes, home improvement mods without having to worry about making the place bomb proof due to little jonny and little mary being in their terrible 2s.
or
we could stretch to a 150k 3 bed semi/detached £600ppm mortgage, larger bills, go tesco each week and spend double what we would on our own, limited choice of cars, limited to one mediocre holiday in a family friendly hotel per year, the money for clothes we had now goes on school uniforms for the kids.
Now i know your all going to jump on me here saying that im focusing too much on money here...but thats what we all go to work for and indeed what makes the world go round.
Would be nice for people with kids to stop being so narrow minded and aggresive now as imo your the ones struggling to see the wider aspect of life.
The opinions on this forum are very much the same as the ones ive seen of people ive met as well. The people with kids get very touchy when you mention the things they could do without kids and how things they choose to do wont be so limited.
If the gf and i decide to get a house with 0 children
we could live in a 2 bed semi, £100k, £400ppm mortgage, smaller bills, leaving more disposable income to enjoy on going on *heaven forbid* - spontanious holidays at the drop of a hat, a new car, clothes, home improvement mods without having to worry about making the place bomb proof due to little jonny and little mary being in their terrible 2s.
or
we could stretch to a 150k 3 bed semi/detached £600ppm mortgage, larger bills, go tesco each week and spend double what we would on our own, limited choice of cars, limited to one mediocre holiday in a family friendly hotel per year, the money for clothes we had now goes on school uniforms for the kids.
Now i know your all going to jump on me here saying that im focusing too much on money here...but thats what we all go to work for and indeed what makes the world go round.
Would be nice for people with kids to stop being so narrow minded and aggresive now as imo your the ones struggling to see the wider aspect of life.
I really don't know where you have got that idea. None of us have said you NEED to have kids to have a wolesome and enjoyable life. It's quite the opposite, YOU are the only person who is being narrow-minded, saying that having kids basically ruins you social life, when the truth is quite different.
Erm.... just no. Again, YOU are being narrow minded, assuming the whole world thinks like you and yearns for 'freedom'.
Who's getting touchy? I'm simply pointing out that you are wrong. Did you not read my post? I'll repeat it for you. Despite having four kids I still:
Go out for a pint.
Go on nights out on the *** with my mates.
Go to the cinema with the wife.
Go to trackdays/car shows.
Have my own non-sensible car.
Have my own hobbies.
Etc. Etc.
Yes, you do have less time/money for those things and you do have to plan ahead, but your opinion that having kids kills any freedom you'll ever have is just plain wrong. Frankly, you need to remove your head from your arse and actually take in what people are saying.
Wow, I wish I could buy a semi/detached for £150k round here. My house is worth a fair bit more than that, and it's merely a mid-terraced......
To repeat what I said above, YOU appear to be the only one being narrow-minded here. Nobody has said that there isn't an alternative to having a wife, a mortgage and kids. I fully accept that some people are perfectly happy and fulfilled not having kids. I can understand and accept that. Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to accept that it's possible to have kids and a social life of your own, so tell me, who's the one being narrow minded here?
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