Have you not heard about the germans putting RFID chips in test subjects to purchase things in shops and get into night clubs?
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Obesity 'not individuals' fault'
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Have you not heard about the germans putting RFID chips in test subjects to purchase things in shops and get into night clubs?
Wont be long
I can see the point they're trying to make about the problems of society causing people to exercise less and eat fatty food. However, there are loads of us out there who choose to eat healthily, exercise enough to burn off any excess calories, and generally live healthy lives to ensure our longevity.
I made a personal choice to train like a nutter, running and riding as much as I can. I also made a choice to eat healthily, balancing sweet treats with plenty of fruit and veg. You can't blame society for any of that, so why should the fatties blame society for their lack of motivation.
There are common arguments that healthy living costs too much - what a load of No Swearing!! A pair of trainers costs as little as your one month's Sky Sports subscription, for the most part it's personal choice that's causing the obesity crisis.
I fully accept that we're moving towards an obese nation, however it will sicken me (no pun intended) if I miss out on the medical care I may need because the NHS is out of funds having been bankrupted treating heart disease and general obesity.
I made a personal choice to train like a nutter, running and riding as much as I can. I also made a choice to eat healthily, balancing sweet treats with plenty of fruit and veg. You can't blame society for any of that, so why should the fatties blame society for their lack of motivation.
There are common arguments that healthy living costs too much - what a load of No Swearing!! A pair of trainers costs as little as your one month's Sky Sports subscription, for the most part it's personal choice that's causing the obesity crisis.
I fully accept that we're moving towards an obese nation, however it will sicken me (no pun intended) if I miss out on the medical care I may need because the NHS is out of funds having been bankrupted treating heart disease and general obesity.
But go into a pub and you will be refused a drink if the bartender thinks you've had enough.
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[TW]Fox;10294983 said:
haha you've been to Essex then? It's they drink diet coke that makes me laugh
I guess it's a case that they kid themselves to a point that they believe they are not fat.
What really annoys me about this issue is that it's always some else’s fault. We all have an option to choose what we eat or what we don’t eat. A lot of it is just boredom, sitting in front of the TV. The stupid thing is that eating doesn’t lift the boredom. You still bored??
I was over 16 stone when I turned 30. I had a straight choice. Carry on the way I am and never recover or do something now. I choose the latter and completely changed my lifestyle. I’ve never looked back since.
Absolutely! So they can go elsewhere...
They won't have a choice, really. What are they going to do? Bang their pudgy fists on the counter and demand more burgers?
OM NOM NOM
*titter*titter*
Thing about that is you won't really harm anyone else by your overeating but you may well do by drinking too much.
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And you'd be sued soooo quickly it wouldn't even be funny.
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Well, if I was on that Jury, I'd take the side of Lysanders fictitious business. They'll only end up on the NHS for heart problems sooner or later and become a burden on all of society.
It is a totally inaccurate summary, as are most of the responses based on it. The crux of the report is that society does not keep people naturally fit any more, whereas it used to (most work is not physical these days, more work means less proper homecooked food etc etc), and that there needs to be an attitude shift. Fundamentally, it's about people not being naturally fit, and realising that just going to work and doing normal things is not enough to keep fit, whereas going back a few decades, it was.
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They should stop cutting down on bullying, it teaches fat kids the errors of their ways.
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Bearing in mind McDonalds have been sued by fatties for making them fat couldn’t they justify not serving them as protecting themselves from such suits. Not that they would ever do this as they would lose too much business.
This might sound retarded and im probably wrong but in a way the article could be considered right. Im not a great believer in free will and since nothing is random and everything that happens is a result of the events preceeding it(i view the brain as an over complicated computer) then how can people actually 'decide' to do anything if the outcome is already set in stone.
What im trying to say in simple terms is that even though a dice has 6 sides and a theoretical probability of having a 1/6 chance of landing on any given side, it really only ever has a 100% chance of landing on a predetermined side. Ihe outcome has nothing to do with the probability of each event that can occur and it is really only based on how the dice is thrown and the various forces acting on it
Problem is even if that view point was right it would create a lot of lazy/weak minded people
Feel free to poke holes in what i have said
What im trying to say in simple terms is that even though a dice has 6 sides and a theoretical probability of having a 1/6 chance of landing on any given side, it really only ever has a 100% chance of landing on a predetermined side. Ihe outcome has nothing to do with the probability of each event that can occur and it is really only based on how the dice is thrown and the various forces acting on it
Problem is even if that view point was right it would create a lot of lazy/weak minded people
Feel free to poke holes in what i have said
I would posit that the main problem would be due to computers. Even though they have made countless tasks easier, a hundred - or even fifty - years ago far fewer people went to work and sat at a desk from 9 to 5 or longer. Now, it doesn't matter if you're an estate agent, solicitor, designer, call centre operative, data entrist etc... you hardly move all day.
[TW]Fox;10294983 said:
LOL quoted for truth!! Nothing worse than a fatty shuffling down the street wearing a top thats far too small so the belly is hanging out of it. Puts me off my food but also stops me getting overweight so maybe it's a good thing
Of course you will. Obesity related health problems affect friends, family and other loved ones. It will affect your behaviour and thus how you act/react around others. It encourages others to let themselves become fat.
It all affects others.
Personally, I'd have no problem with so-called 'fatties' from being refused service at places like McDonalds and such. If because of 'rights' you can't do the 'right' thing - then big things need changing. Not just obesity.
This might sound retarded and im probably wrong but in a way the article could be considered right. Im not a great believer in free will and since nothing is random and everything that happens is a result of the events preceeding it(i view the brain as an over complicated computer) then how can people actually 'decide' to do anything if the outcome is already set in stone.
What im trying to say in simple terms is that even though a dice has 6 sides and a theoretical probability of having a 1/6 chance of landing on any given side, it really only ever has a 100% chance of landing on a predetermined side. Ihe outcome has nothing to do with the probability of each event that can occur and it is really only based on how the dice is thrown and the various forces acting on it
Problem is even if that view point was right it would create a lot of lazy/weak minded people
Feel free to poke holes in what i have said
Everyone has a choice.
Fatman: Ohh this triple sized big mac is sooooo nice!!!
Fatmans brain: Wait this is doing you damage and isnt helping you!
Fatman: So what do i do?
Fatmans brain: The choice is up to you, put the burger down and step away or eat it and die.
You have a choice.
This might sound retarded and im probably wrong but in a way the article could be considered right. Im not a great believer in free will and since nothing is random and everything that happens is a result of the events preceeding it(i view the brain as an over complicated computer) then how can people actually 'decide' to do anything if the outcome is already set in stone.
What im trying to say in simple terms is that even though a dice has 6 sides and a theoretical probability of having a 1/6 chance of landing on any given side, it really only ever has a 100% chance of landing on a predetermined side. Ihe outcome has nothing to do with the probability of each event that can occur and it is really only based on how the dice is thrown and the various forces acting on it
Problem is even if that view point was right it would create a lot of lazy/weak minded people
Feel free to poke holes in what i have said
You're talking about determinism which - though I believe is valid - doesn't really have a place in this topic. It's all very well saying "they're going to get fat anyway so it's inevitable" but if we're going to employ that line then we as well stop discussing most things on this board...
Yes, exactly. I've done the move from an active, physical job that gave me the fitness to a desk job, and it's a big change. It's all well and good saying you need to replace the lost exercise, which is, of course, possible, but it's also yet another thing to fit into busy lives, especially if you previously merged it with something else.