TV links shut down and owner arrested

ChoÞÞer said:
he did not host any of the video's thou, so don't see how he got done?
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I doubt it'll be as bad as if he did host. The arguement for torrent sites (you know, the get what you want ones) is that the .torrent file is only metadata ... so it's data of data and therefore not copyright itself just like these links however they enable infringment of piracy to be commited.

I suppose the likes of Google can be used to do so too, but it's not as explict as a torrent site (it links to a lot more than torrents)
 
Difference is Google doesn't actively advertise or promote the illegal material. If you want to use their engine to find illegal content, they can't stop you, but they won't give you a helping hand. Just like the police won't go after a car dealer if someone who bought a car off them did a hit and run. It isn't their fault that somebody abused their product/service.
 
iCraig said:
Difference is Google doesn't actively advertise or promote the illegal material. If you want to use their engine to find illegal content, they can't stop you, but they won't give you a helping hand. Just like the police won't go after a car dealer if someone who bought a car off them did a hit and run.
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You could use your analogy to justify torrent sites, therefore.
 
I don't get why its illegal to watch old TV shows that have been aired if you have a TV license etc, seems silly in my opinion.
 
blighter said:
I don't get why its illegal to watch old TV shows that have been aired if you have a TV license etc, seems silly in my opinion.
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I totally agree it doesn't really harm anyone.

iCraig said:
I'm not too clued up on torrents. Do torrent sites host the files or just link to where you can find them?
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They are metadata ... the .torrent file is a link which enables you to then download whatever.
 
Tony Williams said:
I don't think 'pirating' TV Episodes is that big of a deal. I mean the site the mentioned, I know a few people who use it and if you think about it your watching it at a lot lower res and on a computer screen so by usng that they anit getting much over. (by the way I know it's possible to get hold of much better rips but that's not what I'm talking about here)

Plus if you look at shows like 24, Prison Break they usually get aired anyway on FTA channels, like Five. So no one really loses money or anything and most people I know pay TV liecene regardless of this. Plus you get the advantage of watching it hours after U.S. airtimes which is usally more than a week early here and to some people that means a lot but I guess that's one reason for the arrest.

It is also TV on demand so you wont have to miss anything or record it on VCR, which they also used to moan about also which in theory really does nothing to harm the industy not everyone has an eased schedule.

I think arresting someone is alittle extreme and I'm sure they will go after a lot of recorded IPs/accounts too.
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It is a big deal though. If everyone does it then nobody will be watching (paying to watch it) on tv and there will be no advertising space sold and then the programmes just won't get made.
 
jdickerson said:
The latter - but it is complicated.
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Well if torrent sites compile links to illegal content I guess they're subject to the same action as TV Links. However torrent technology can be used to share legal content too (like P2P) so I guess it's hard to track whether a file is illegal or not.

Just because a file is named as a new movie release, it doesn't mean that file *is* an illegal copy of that movie, right? :)
 
Nexus said:
It is a big deal though. If everyone does it then nobody will be watching (paying to watch it) on tv and there will be no advertising space sold and then the programmes just won't get made.
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Just because I have access to episodes over torrents or video host sites doesn't mean I wont stop watching TV air feeds too and also paying for my TV Licence I would still watch TV for what it is, music channels, shopping channels (some people like these), dramas, soaps, kids shows. I doubt a video host site or even torrentsite would replace the constant stream of episodes you would get on TV.

I understand copyright and why it is ... but there really are more important things in the world besides some kid watching an episode of Prison Break 7 days or whatever before his friends.
 
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Tony Williams said:
Just because I have access to episodes over torrents or video host sites doesn't mean I wont stop watching TV air feeds too and also paying for my TV Licence I would still watch TV for what it is, music channels, shopping channels (some people like these), dramas, soaps, kids shows. I doubt a video host site or even torrentsite would replace the constant stream of episodes you would get on TV.

I understand copyright and why it is ... but there really are more important things in the world besides some kid watching an episode of Prison Break 7 days or whatever before his friends.
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100% Agree, Torrent Sites will never compete or replace TV, not for me anyway. TV is way to convenient, you turn the box on and there you have a constant stream of episodes.
 
I am 100% confident that this forum's Youtube thread - for instance - is strictly monitored for links to unauthorised media, and that copyright is actively sought and granted by appropriate parties to this heavily visited, tightly owner-moderated, arguably business-benefitting website. :)

Especially seeing as there don't appear to be any disclaimers pertaining to copyright infringement of anything other than software in the forum's FAQ.
 
-Colli$ion- said:
100% Agree, Torrent Sites will never compete or replace TV, not for me anyway. TV is way to convenient, you turn the box on and there you have a constant stream of episodes.
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Indeed it's true I mean in some houses a lot of people watch soaps and since they are aired like everyday it's inconvienent to download + watch so in that sence torrentsites and video hosts WONT destroy TV. If it's based in the living room and you've a selected an amount of TV shows you've downloaded TV will still have a use of turning on and watching something randomly. If it's from a video host then usually it lacks the quality so it's usually only good for a temporary solution that is to watch earlier.

I don't think these sites will wipe out TV just like making your own clothes wont harm the likes to Stone Island, Rockport, Lacoste and the likes I know that's not the best discription but meh.
 
In essence isn't this the same as arresting someone for saying "there's a bloke over there who you can get free pirate films off of" ?
 
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