TV links shut down and owner arrested

Samione said:
In essence isn't this the same as arresting someone for saying "there's a bloke over there who you can get free pirate films off of" ?
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I don't know of any blokes who give away free pirated movies if that's what you mean the blackmarket guys? But in essence, maybe remember we are talking about TV and not movies.

Some movies now-a-days aren't even worth pirating IMO.
 
Tony Williams said:
I don't know of any blokes who give away free pirated movies if that's what you mean the blackmarket guys? But in essence, maybe remember we are talking about TV and not movies.

Some movies now-a-days aren't even worth pirating IMO.
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Are we? tv-links hosted films, music videos and tv shows, and it is irrelevant whether you know someone who gives away pirated DVDs or infact if they even exist, it's just a hypothetical comparision.
 
Tony Williams said:
I don't know of any blokes who give away free pirated movies if that's what you mean the blackmarket guys? But in essence, maybe remember we are talking about TV and not movies.

Some movies now-a-days aren't even worth pirating IMO.
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According to the aforelinked Guardian article, there were links on the site to websites hosting movies too.

Not that it should make a difference.
 
So basically yes, this is the same as arresting someone for telling people where to get to free pirated material, unless he actually hosted some of the files himself of course.
 
iCraig said:
I doubt he'll get much though, as he didn't create or host the material.
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Wrong. It's akin to handling stolen goods. You might not have pinched them but you played a part in the process and are therefore just as guilty.
 
Spie said:
Wrong. It's akin to handling stolen goods. You might not have pinched them but you played a part in the process and are therefore just as guilty.
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How is providing directions to places to gain acces to material akin to handling stolen goods? The conclusion you came to seems a bit unfounded, I don't logically see how even handling stolen goods makes you as guilty or as morally corrupt as the person who stole them in the first place, it takes a lot more for the average person to actually physically steal something.
 
Spie said:
Wrong. It's akin to handling stolen goods. You might not have pinched them but you played a part in the process and are therefore just as guilty.
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It's more akin to telling someone that bob down the pub has a couple of knock of CD's than actually handling them (imo).
 
Spie said:
Wrong. It's akin to handling stolen goods. You might not have pinched them but you played a part in the process and are therefore just as guilty.
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He'll get a lesser punishment than someone caught for hosting that amount of content though surely?

A person who originally stole goods will get more than a person who handled them. If prosecuted for this, I really can't see him getting a lot. People have had their sites shut down for hosting illegal content and have received a fine. They paid it and just moved their servers to the Netherlands. Not exactly a knee trembling punishment, and this guy is being done for linking to them AFAIK, not actually hosting them.
 
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Samione said:
How is providing directions to places to gain acces to material akin to handling stolen goods? The conclusion you came to seems a bit unfounded, I don't logically see how even handling stolen goods makes you as guilty or as morally corrupt as the person who stole them in the first place, it takes a lot more for a person to actually physically steal something.
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Same here I think handling stolen goods would be best measurable againt the rippers (cappers, encoders, etc)

I still don't think he deserves jails ... I mean what will the guys do to him in there if they find out he provided links to TV shows?

Site being shut down and a slap on the wrists would be more like it.
 
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iCraig said:
He'll get a lesser punishment than someone caught for hosting that amount of content though surely?

A person who originally stole goods will get more than a person who handled them.
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There might be a slight difference but it's so easy to host content remotely these days and claim to be "just" providing links. The law isn't that dumb.
 
I think he will be punished severely - it's fairly similair to the cases where people have been prosecuted for music/file sharing, and a few examples are extremely heavy. We're talking thousands of pounds and jail-time. The basis of some of these cases are that people have seen or heard the subjects, rather than the actual existence of the files. Just watching the programs on tv-links breaks a hell of a lot of laws alone.

Anyone heard of the case where some garage mechanics are being sued because they let a car's radio (that they were working on) play? The prosecutor's argument was that people other than the authorized owner was hearing it.
 
Spie said:
There might be a slight difference but it's so easy to host content remotely these days and claim to be "just" providing links. The law isn't that dumb.
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It is that dumb, depending on the price of the lawyers on the prosecution. And that's still not the point, he himself has only pointed people in the direction of content, regardless of how easy it is for other people to host it/upload it.
 
KNiVES said:
I think he will be punished severely - it's fairly similair to the cases where people have been prosecuted for music/file sharing, and a few examples are extremely heavy. We're talking thousands of pounds and jail-time. The basis of some of these cases are that people have seen or heard the subjects, rather than the actual existence of the files. Just watching the programs on tv-links breaks a hell of a lot of laws alone.
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where did you get this from?

People get jail for physical piracy not links on a web site

I very much doubt he has been arrested, he'll just get a slap on the wrists.
 
There are people who download movies/games burn them and sell them IMO this is a lot worse as they profit from it. These sites for personal use isn't so extreme as no one makes money from it.
 
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