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Having driven both I'd have to say it comes down to the driver and there ability to handle the car.

No arguing the impreza has amazing grip especially when set up right, but a great driver with the b**ls to push a skyline would be an even match particularly in a GTR.

The GTS with RWD is too happy to go everywhere sideways.
 
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R33 GTS aint going anywhere quick as they are non-turbo. the GTST is the turbo running the RB25DET lump. as stated about 250bhp. The R32 GTST thats been mentioned would be running the RB20DET so its only a 2ltr not sure if the person intrested knows this.. and as for the STI vs GTR debate.. on twisty roads the STI may well have it.. show the skyline any hint of a straight and id say its a different story. totally depends on the driver of each car also. The GTR aint super quick un-modded.. but then neither is the STI ;)
 
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and as for the STI vs GTR debate.. on twisty roads the STI may well have it.. show the skyline any hint of a straight and id say its a different story. totally depends on the driver of each car also. The GTR aint super quick un-modded.. but then neither is the STI ;)
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I don't think it would be a different story even on a straight. The power difference between them isn't that much as standard (both rated at the 'gentlemens agreement' 276bhp, although in reality the GTR is around 300), but the Skyline is a whole lot more lardy, especially if we are talking about a classic scoob.

When my Scoob was at around 300bhp I had a play with my mate's standard R33 GTR and I spanked him, both straight line and twisty stuff.
 
nah i still stand by my opinion. Standard the skyline will pip it on a straight. But we will never know unless we somehow get both cars to geather and give it a try... anyone own a GTR around here? lol
 
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Standard the skyline will pip it on a straight.
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What makes you think that? Just because it's a OMG SKYLINE!!!one1 it can't defy the laws of physics. It's all about power to weight, and GTRs are pretty lardy compared to classic scoobs.

Also it depends how long the straight is and what sort of speeds are reached. At lower speeds the scoob's lighter weight and shorter gearing will give it the edge, the Skyline would probably pull it back at 100+ when the brick-like aerodynamics of the Scoob come into play.
 
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Dont put me in the OMG SKYLINE!!!!one one one group please.. its pretty childish.

Whats the classic STI kicking out power to weight?

GTR's typlically dyno between 300 - 320 bhp. With that in mind.. power to weight comes in at about 200bhp/tonne

im not sure on the in gear times of the skyline. ive got the ratio's lol

i just think it will be quicker. seen a lot of skyline vs scooby drags at york and down at santa pod.

I not too bothered if im wrong.. but i wouldnt mind knowing tbh
 
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Dont put me in the OMG SKYLINE!!!!one one one group please.. its pretty childish.
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I wasn't being childish, it just seemed like you were ignoring the figures/facts and thinking it would be quicker just because it's a Skyline. My apologies if that's not the case :)

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Whats the classic STI kicking out power to weight?
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Around 220bhp/ton, so that combined with the gearing would put the scoob ahead.
 
Well thats that then.. a classic scooby is quicker than a R34 GTR.. Good job them RB26's are easy to eek power from. The R32 is ever so slightly lighter..but not enought to make the difference. Ive loved Skyline's for yrs before all the OMFG SKYLINE > ALL mentality came about. But since driving lightweight cars.. im purely in the lightweight brigade now.

To OP. Wheels are standard GTST items :). Any plans for it?
 
In that case, if we've come to the conclusion that Scoobs are faster when power to weight ratio is considered, how come there slaughtered on wet and dry tracks in the Best motoring videos?

I'm not a huge fan of either but im just wondering.
 
id imagine.. the top end grunt of the GTR helps on track.. and the cars set up. Power to weight stops being a problem when you get above a certain speed i belive?
 
TBH despite the fact that I find them entertaining, I always take the results of those Best Motoring vids with a larch pinch of salt, there have been some very strange and inconsistant results in some of them.
 
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TBH despite the fact that I find them entertaining, I always take the results of those Best Motoring vids with a larch pinch of salt, there have been some very strange and incosistant results in some of them.
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Iv noticed this too, the NSX is supposedly a super car and trounces Ferrari's when its featured against them, and then looses to a R34 GTR and an Evo :confused:
 
tracks have perfect tarmac with nice rumble strips on the edges

english roads dont. they have pot holes and lumps and bumps that upset the harsh ride of the GTR very easily. on the edge you're more likely to find gravel, leaves than nice rumble strips

race tracks are nice and flat, and dont have silly cambers. They are predictable and flowing

english roads arent.

its not just a question of traction.
 
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