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IPTV for 360 - a tie up with BT
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This is not for you then.
I'm pretty sure the service from BT with MS will bring standard channels. It's only BTs service which doesn't offer TV channels down the line. The box has a freeview tuner in it.
But from the demo shown (American TV I know) it will be channels. Otherwise whats the point in on demand content when they have the video marketplace?
But from the demo shown (American TV I know) it will be channels. Otherwise whats the point in on demand content when they have the video marketplace?
Also Mr Latte, I am heart broken that you did not know what IPTV was. You are the god of home entertainment. Hang you head in shame
Ah you see im at work and rushed through the thread, (thats what i get)
So how does this then compare to the service thats coming to the PS3 and will Apple Tv ever see a life over here. If you ask me and with the further growth of the internet i really see a big pie thats being sliced up for several services all competing for the same kind of customers.
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I have only done a quick google on this so the PS3 guys should be able to explain better. What I can gather from it is that it is a external freeview tuner which plugs into the PS3. The PS3 will then have software acting as a PVR. So you will be able to record, TV guide and all the other features you would expect.
Apple TV I have no idea. Wasn't something which interest me.
Sky does offer the best solution. I have never used or even seen cable though so I can't compare it to that. However as you said you do pay for it. £30 for a decent package. £10 for Sky + and then isn't it another £10 for HD?
I wouldn't think IPTV was low quality. There is a great free program for PC called Joost. It's on demand content and I think it uses Divx or Xvid... can't remember. But that's very good quality. I would hope IPTV was much better than this. From the demos shown by MS it certainly looks great. I will try to find a couple of links for you.
Apple TV I have no idea. Wasn't something which interest me.
Sky does offer the best solution. I have never used or even seen cable though so I can't compare it to that. However as you said you do pay for it. £30 for a decent package. £10 for Sky + and then isn't it another £10 for HD?
I wouldn't think IPTV was low quality. There is a great free program for PC called Joost. It's on demand content and I think it uses Divx or Xvid... can't remember. But that's very good quality. I would hope IPTV was much better than this. From the demos shown by MS it certainly looks great. I will try to find a couple of links for you.
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I have no figures to back this up but would I be right in saying that BT are the biggest BB provider based on subscriber numbers or if not one of the biggest, regardless of whether they are any good or not? If so it makes sense to me for MS to partner with them.
The best solution for what ? - they dont do IPTV
Also, IPTV on BTVision is of freeview quality which is pretty good - certainly much better than Joost.
The best solution for what ? - they dont do IPTV
Whats the primary benifit of IPTV exactly then...
You are correct, BT bought +net not so long ago as they had good experience with Ellacoya's(traffic shaping hardware) which i presume is what is used for the IPtv stuff as it tags data for different priority level's over the network, Maybe another reason why microsoft chose them as it would give a QOS level they may of wanted.
The best solution for what ? - they dont do IPTV
Best solution for TV in general.
http://on10.net/Blogs/tina/you-heard-it-people-carbon-is-real/
That's the best interview I have seen about IPTV on the 360. They show you all the features and stuff. Very good watch.
wwwebber I suggest you watch it. It should explain more about what IPTV is. It's not just shows and stuff like you get from BT Vision. It is TV channels down your internet line.
On demand - you watch what you want - when you want to. For example - BTVision have a library of over 500 films to choose from - you can watch any of these any time you like.
etc etc.
Yes I'm aware of what IPTV can be used for - Homechoice is an example. I'm just saying that I would be very surpised to see any current freeview channels offered this way in the UK via BT/MS.
Right so its only good for streaming the content if you decide you want it there and then. Most of us are happy to use Tv guides to record the programmes we want and then view them when suits us anyways. As for live events like concerts or sport those are live anyways on TV.The only benifit would be of streams of exclusive content and no way is BT going to gain the sole rights to these over say Sky etc.
So really basically what your saying is its like having your own Home Media Centre movie library but you stream the content you want to watch, when you want to watch them but its really for movies. As for hundreds of old films, what about those that would rather buy or rent the new HD DVD or BD version and enjoy its much superior quality or hell you could still rent or buy the DVD. I really dont think that many folk need such a service or would feel the benifit of sitting on their ass would surpass in a quality and enjoyment factor the other traditional ways of viewing movies.
Besides have you priced some DVDs lately, their dirt cheap.
I'm not going to defend BT's implementation of IPTV - it works and it is convenient for me and many others. I also dont feel the need to justify to it to others. It's obviously not very appealing to you and I'm fine with that
. See here for more info - it may or may not be similar to what you'll get on your 360 - but it is likely - minus the freeview PVR of course :-
http://www.btvision.bt.com/vision/index.htm
The point im raising is really whats so good about it and does a majority of people care much for it?
Is TV that important in our lives we must watch something at the click of a button?
Youll also likely see companies like Sky offering more channels and time repeated NVOD services for popular entertainment just like in a way many +1 programmes have arrived.
I understand modern Tv viewing is all about more choice and convienence and i can see the benifits of Sky+ etc but really a VOD service is more for tech savvy than average Joe?
Is TV that important in our lives we must watch something at the click of a button?
Youll also likely see companies like Sky offering more channels and time repeated NVOD services for popular entertainment just like in a way many +1 programmes have arrived.
I understand modern Tv viewing is all about more choice and convienence and i can see the benifits of Sky+ etc but really a VOD service is more for tech savvy than average Joe?
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You're either in denial or haven't watched the video in the link I gave.
It is a PVR. You can watch channels. Infact its the only thing they show, they dont show any "on demand" service. He even records a program in the video.
Now, I've watched that small vid and it hasn't changed my opinion at all. It looks good but an implemention similar to that wont work over here in blighty just yet.
It's down to the service provider to decide upon what services to offer and how they are going to be offered.
BT does not have the infrastructure needed to provide constant live TV via IPTV. I think this will change when the 21CN is rolled out as this is all IP based anyway.
At the moment I think all you'll get is a service based upon BT Vision and it's content which is not very demanding on it's current network.
If you want Fair usage policy, Acceptable usage policy, slow connection speeds, low Unlimited* Caps, Indian tech support, then join BT.
Id rather stick with normal telly and faster internet than get "DSN critital error" every time i change channel..
Id rather stick with normal telly and faster internet than get "DSN critital error" every time i change channel..
So if everyone can see that I'm wrong why are there people agreeing with me? Afterall, everyone means just that, everyone, which obviously isn't the case, duh. It's all too easy top pop your balloon Mr Men, consistently so. You used to amuse me, now you bore me.