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GTS 640 to GT 512?
- Thread starter JoeUk
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Found my XFX xxxExtreme OC Edition GTS 640MB much faster than the smaller 512MB GT in benchmarks.....People with GTS especially the OC versions are better off waiting until the new G92's arrive for a definate performance increase...
Have no idea why?
My 8800 GTS was overclocked and was still slower than my GT
You are right the OC Versions of 640MB GTS are Definately Faster
This is just untrue and false information.
Its all down to what resolution you game at, up to 1280x1024 its faster than a 640mb gts anything over and the gap between the 2 cards starts to close.
Moving from a BFG 8800GTS OC 320MB to a GIGABYTE 8800GT 512MB i found noticable differance in games and the extra memory certainly helps as everything feels smoother, crysis for example on my GTS even at 25fps would feel a little choppy from time tim though fps didnt drop but the GT feel a lot smoother more of the time at higher fps and i game at 1280x1024.
Moving from a BFG 8800GTS OC 320MB to a GIGABYTE 8800GT 512MB i found noticable differance in games and the extra memory certainly helps as everything feels smoother, crysis for example on my GTS even at 25fps would feel a little choppy from time tim though fps didnt drop but the GT feel a lot smoother more of the time at higher fps and i game at 1280x1024.
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Either that or newer, more demanding games have come out?
Personally, if I had a GTS 640, then I wouldn't bother changing to a GT.
The only reason I say that is that I recently changed my GTS320 for a GT, and although I have gained a couple of thousand 3dmarks in 06, we all know real game framerates is where it's at.
In some games, and on my system, my GT is only on a par with my old BFG GTS OC (eg HL2-Lost Coast/HL2-Ep1), and in others it's about 15% to 20% faster (MOH-Airborne).
It's a very quick card for the money, no doubt, but £180 is still quite a bit of cash, and I personally don't think it would be a very good move, even if you got that amount for your old card.
I don't think you'd be moving very far up the performance tree, to be honest.
Buying from scratch would be a different proposition of course, and the GT would be the best bang per buck.
The only reason I say that is that I recently changed my GTS320 for a GT, and although I have gained a couple of thousand 3dmarks in 06, we all know real game framerates is where it's at.
In some games, and on my system, my GT is only on a par with my old BFG GTS OC (eg HL2-Lost Coast/HL2-Ep1), and in others it's about 15% to 20% faster (MOH-Airborne).
It's a very quick card for the money, no doubt, but £180 is still quite a bit of cash, and I personally don't think it would be a very good move, even if you got that amount for your old card.
I don't think you'd be moving very far up the performance tree, to be honest.
Buying from scratch would be a different proposition of course, and the GT would be the best bang per buck.
Very dependant on the game and resolution though. For example running the Crysis demo canned GPU benchmark at 1920 x 1200 with everything switched to "Very High" my GTX is getting 15.12fps average against a friend with a GT in a near as dammit identical machine getting 9.64.
With everything at "high" it's 26.46 for the GTX and 21.57 for the GT.
These scores were Vista x64 based btw.
No idea how the GTS performs but I have a feeling with high res and highly detailed textures the additional memory bandwidth will begin to make a difference.
The GT is a stonking card for the money but i can't help but feel it's a fairly pointless upgrade for anyone who already has a 8800. I just don't think you'll really see any noticable improvement in real games away from the boring 3dbench willy waving scene.
Nvidia 9800s with proper DX10 / 10.1 support has to be the way forward for anyone with current gen DX10 kit, just save your pennies and fingers crossed we see them in the spring (if we are to believe nvidias statements back when the G80 appeared that the wanted to aim for an 18month dev cycle).
I sold my GTS 640 and got a GT.
Best upgrade I have made for the cost.
Reason being I actually got more speed and money in my pocket
Its usually the other way around.
So pretty much on par like he said, considering the GT is nearly half the price.
I'm doing it to get nearly £100 back from buying the wrong card.
That's what I'd been led to believe, and I've seen the reviews too.
But, as somebody who has seen on my own system that the new GT doesn't exactly obliterate my old card in games, and that a 640MB GTS is technically quicker, I'd say that the GT is not the second coming everybody is talking about.
Yes, the GT IS quicker, but knowing what I know now, I wouldn't bother upgrading from a 640MB GTS.
All IMO of course!
Not sure why you wouldn't want a faster card for less money?
Nope but it's faster for less money, not to mention that it's more power efficient and single slot.
It's only a refresh of the 8800GTS and the point of a refresh is just to make improvements, this one happens to make lots. It's superior in every way and it's worth sidegrading to, hence why my GTX is outta' here.
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I sold my GTS 640 and got a GT.
Best upgrade I have made for the cost.
Reason being I actually got more speed and money in my pocket
Its usually the other way around.
If you can do that and put some money in your pocket, then yes, great!
But, all I'm saying is don't be surprised if you don't find much of a framerate difference in games.
If it is going to cost you a bit of money to upgrade, then it's not worth doing IMO.
Also, re the GTX vs GT performance argument, the Crysis demo results in this thread still show the GTX beating the GT by nearly 20%. That's not really on a par, otherwise I could have said my GTS 320MB was 'on a par' with a 640MB GTS or 2900 XT?!
If you call ~20% at high and 50% at "very high" par.So pretty much on par like he said, considering the GT is nearly half the price.
I'm doing it to get nearly £100 back from buying the wrong card.
We know what the price of the GT is, what's your point? No one is disputing the GT is a stonking card, just that at higher res and texture detail the additional bandwidth of the GTS 640 could close the gap so if you already have one a change may not realise much benefit id that's the sort of game you play.
What's your point?
**edit** Sorry, just noticed from your sig you just bought a GT, all becomes clear
Benchmarks show there is. It's not huge, but it's free performance if you sell your old hardware.
You just said your GTX gets 15fps average with "very high" so I doubt you're playing with those settings anyway, 25-30fps with "high" sounds more like it and you said yourself the GT comes close.
You're getting pretty much GTX performance for half the price in a single-slot package, how is it not superior?What's your point?
**edit** Sorry, just noticed from your sig you just bought a GT, all becomes clear
And yeah sorry my sig said GTX yesterday but I know I bought the wrong card.
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Easy, listen!!
IF you're buying NEW, then GT no question.
IF you can change your 8800GTS of either flavour for a GT with no cash, then again, a no brainer really!
I'm talking about the OP which is moving from a 640 to s GT.
I'm just saying it isn't worth it in performance terms. That's all!
But easy is right, as much as it pains me to say it.I'm talking about the OP which is moving from a 640 to s GT.
I'm just saying it isn't worth it in performance terms. That's all!
Selling a GTS 640MB and getting a GT 512MB will *gain* you a bit of drinking money.
Nope but it's faster for less money, not to mention that it's more power efficient and single slot.
It's only a refresh of the 8800GTS and the point of a refresh is just to make improvements, this one happens to make lots. It's superior in every way and it's worth sidegrading to, hence why my GTX is outta' here.
Again, not arguing with what you're saying if moving from a GTX, as they're still commanding significantly more money used than it costs to buy a GT.
The benefit doesn't really hold for a GTS though, as they'll probably fetch less money than a GT now.
And, if buying new, then yes you'd be mad to not get a GT at the moment.
Easy, listen!!
IF you're buying NEW, then GT no question.
IF you can change your 8800GTS of either flavour for a GT with no cash, then again, a no brainer really!
I'm talking about the OP which is moving from a 640 to s GT.
I'm just saying it isn't worth it in performance terms. That's all!
Its worth it for resale value alone.
640mb GTS will plummet in price making getting a new GTS and GTX even harder.
Sell now buy a GT then you
a: Get a faster card
b: Pocket some cash
c: Have a GT that will lose little in resale
d: Bag a new GTS from the sale of your GT (in time)
e: Enjoy a huge increase in your epeen 06 score