How much meat do you eat?

Sic said:
that all just seems like figures you've plucked out of the air there.
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Of course it's figurers if plucked from the air. You can look for stats but I doubt you'll find anything useful. Just like the stats that say vegetarians are healthier are meaningless, as there not controlled studies.
 
Sic said:
is that a matter of opinion? I don't really see any logical line you can draw between eating a lot of red meat and eating unhealthily
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Red meat contributes to cholesterol along with dairy, alcohol etc. Therefore the more red meat you eat the greater your chances of having higher cholesterol.
 
Atleast once a day (usually tuna or makerel). Probably not very healthy in the long run but fish always seems to be so convenient for me when compared to other meats(i eat it on its own, not part of a meal). Also eat a fair bit of chicken and ham but that seems to vary a lot day by day
 
Lysander said:
Red meat contributes to cholesterol along with dairy, alcohol etc. Therefore the more red meat you eat the greater your chances of having higher cholesterol.
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Only if you don't balance it with all the natural antioxidants you get from a well balanced diet. But even then we are talking on very high quantities in addition to bad meat and fatty meats cooked with a lot of fat. Even then it would be an in extremis case - red meat's not as bad as people make out - it's even better for you if you have a good balanced diet. :)
 
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Lysander said:
Red meat contributes to cholesterol along with dairy, alcohol etc. Therefore the more red meat you eat the greater your chances of having higher cholesterol.
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Do you have some stats for that?
I was under the impression that it was saturated fat that raised cholesterol.
It's possible to eat lean red meat without consuming lots of saturated fat.
 
Reeve said:
Atleast once a day (usually tuna or makerel). Probably not very healthy in the long run but fish always seems to be so convenient for me when compared to other meats(i eat it on its own, not part of a meal). Also eat a fair bit of chicken and ham but that seems to vary a lot day by day
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The only thing about tuna is the toxic metal exposure you have to be a little careful of - i.e. don't eat kilos of the stuff a week!

Makerel is fantanstic, lots of omega 3, essential fatty acids - and it's nice!
 
Bacon for breakfast every day without fail....ham or similar for lunch most of the time, and then beef/chicken/lamb/fish for dinner! I love meat!
 
AcidHell2 said:
Of course it's figurers if plucked from the air. You can look for stats but I doubt you'll find anything useful. Just like the stats that say vegetarians are healthier are meaningless, as there not controlled studies.
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yeah, but that's what I'm saying - you don't have anything concrete to back it up, other than your opinion (that I can see anyway!)

Lysander said:
Red meat contributes to cholesterol along with dairy, alcohol etc. Therefore the more red meat you eat the greater your chances of having higher cholesterol.
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that's not what I was disagreeing with, although I can't agree with that either because, like I said, I'm not a dietician (I don't know if it's right :p). The original comment made was that red-meat-eating is more likely to be done by people with an otherwise unbalanced diet
 
never. ever. period.

edit: well, not entirely true, my first two years of live i was an omnivore, so i assume i ate meat(although by then it was already just fish in my family)
 
Sic said:
yeah, but that's what I'm saying - you don't have anything concrete to back it up, other than your opinion (that I can see anyway!)
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I have seen stats before, but I also know these types of stats are extremely hard to find. it's pretty simple logic, if you take a user base that limits what it eats on health grounds then on average that group will eat healthier. You then take a group which eats high meat and is likely to include people who have a fry up every morning, that group on average is going to eat less healthy.
 
Haircut said:
Do you have some stats for that?
I was under the impression that it was saturated fat that raised cholesterol.
It's possible to eat lean red meat without consuming lots of saturated fat.
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I eat red meat occasionally myself. I was just citing what I had read in certain places before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat

Red meat has a high content of saturated fat, which is associated with cardiovascular diseases. One study has determined that the death rate of non meat-eaters due to heart diseases is 0.72 compared to meat eaters.[12]
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Link here which I haven't been bothered to read through:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/308/6945/1667
 
Everyday, chicken or tuna or turkey or something along those lines for lunch in a salad on a sanwich, dinner is either steak/fish or chicken again.
 
Not a huge amount. I don't eat red meat, only really chicken, pork sausages and bacon.
Tend to have bacon once, maybe twice a week and chicken about 3 times a week.
So on average, 5 meals a week probably, some weeks more.
 
Lysander said:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/308/6945/1667
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this is exactly the studies I'm talking about, at least the one you quoted realised it's limitation to be useless.

Conclusions : The reduced mortality from cancer among those not eating meat is not explained by lifestyle related risk factors, which have a low prevalence among vegetarians. No firm conclusion can be made about deaths from ischaemic heart disease. These data do not justify advice to exclude meat from the diet since there are several attributes of a vegetarian diet apart from not eating meat which might reduce the risk.
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