How long can someone live with parents till they charge u for rent

If you're still studying and you don't have time for a job and you are dedicating yourself to your studies that's one thing. But if you've got a job and can contribute something - then I think it's only fair to offer. I am of course making a huge assumption that people don't do anything round the house either, and for that I am guilty of making presumptions. The implications from the posts and replies is that's pretty much how it seems. I do accept that this may not be the case and may well be wrong. A household is for everyone to get involved in IMO. :)
 
I find parents charging their kids for rent absurd, regardless of age. I don't know of anyone in that situation and mine would never even dream of asking money for rent or moving out; I even got asked if I wanted an allowance a few months ago (I'm 23 and working ft). As far as I am concerned, I see a family as a unique entity, and we are all entitled to live under one roof. If something major needs buying and my parents cannot get it, I'll happily pay for it - in fact I just got 2 rooms recarpeted and soon to be refurnished. And if my parents feel I need something, they'll just buy it for me. What is a family if you don't rely on each other and where do you draw the line - bills, hiring of furniture, share of council tax, etc???

So you don't contribute anything at all? Cool, free electricity, free food, I bet you get free ironing and washing too eh?

Seriously, you're working full time and not contributing anything? I hope not - it's going to be a shock when you live away from home or wake up in the real world some day.
 
But if it's not needed, I really don't understand the concept of paying to stay with your family personally.
Just because something isn't needed, doesn't mean to say that we shouldn't do it. IMO as an adult who is earning money, if you ('you' in general) are consuming someone elses resources then then you should be paying them for it. I don't really get the concept of ripping off (sponging, taking liberties or whatever you wanna call it) your parents.

Friend of mine borrowed a lot of money from her parents to come on a holiday, and is now working during summer/winter to pay it back. Told my parents and they found it very very strange that you had to pay back your parents

The whole concept of 'borrowing' is that you have to pay it back - otherwise it is called 'stealing' or 'accepting a gift' :) Especially in this case, where they are getting a lot of money for something they don't even need, a holiday! It's not like they needed the money to pay for essentials like shelter, clothing or food. I don't see why the parents should have to shell out their hard earned so their child can go off galavanting around someplace - especially if said child couldn't pay for it themselves. If money is that much of a problem they should be sorting out a job not swanning off on hols - or atleast agreeing to pay back the money as they have in this case.

As you say, it may well be a cultural thing. I don't profess to know much about what Indian households are like, but my rather outdated and blinkered view of many foreign countries is that there are large (age gap) families all living under one roof, rather than the UK model where most people move out in their teens or twenties.
 
I have a friend who is 21, on the dole (for 2 years,) drives a pretty new car and still gets pocket money, has never paid a penny rent in his life and has a ridiculously high spec pc, that really grinds my gears
 
So you don't contribute anything at all? Cool, free electricity, free food, I bet you get free ironing and washing too eh?

Seriously, you're working full time and not contributing anything? I hope not - it's going to be a shock when you live away from home or wake up in the real world some day.

One of my friends earns a bucket load more than I do and he doesn't pay his parents a bean. They've paid for a sink in his room, he's got a 360, a 42in TV, whereas I have a portable telly and a PC, which I pay for, but I pay them the amount they ask for, and without a fuss either, I'm happy to be contributing towards family costs. We're not a well-off family, so me getting a full-time job helped my parents out in a way, as well as myself. :)

I'd love my own sink! :(
 
I think anything under 18 would be way too early, you can't live by yourself at that age, and can't get a decent paying job either, plus your at school 7 hours a day.
 
[TW]Fox;10462258 said:
Do not forget it works both ways. My parents may not ask for rent in the future but I am sure that in 40 years time, everything will be reversed.

'Certainly, you can move into nursing accomodation but you'll have to give me some keep in return for me paying the fees for you!'

I somehow think not.

The way I see it, supporting an elderly relative is just the converse of supporting a child - i.e. kids live with their parents for free until the age of 16(+), and then the kids may support the parents in their old age if necessary. Everything in between (i.e. when both parties are adults in fulltime employment) should be looked at slightly differently.

Obviously there are exceptions depending in individual circumstance, but I don't think adults should consider themselves to have a divine right to live in their parents' home for free forever, meanwhile raking in the megabux.
 
Whatever works for the family.

Why pay if your are saving for a house?

This would make your goal take longer.

My folks took in my cousin and wife for 6 months for free to get them out of the first buyer trap.

To help them get out of the city.

They were in their late 20's...

Was 2 people that much extra in terms of cost on bills etc.. for that time?

No.
 
Don't pay a penny rent, however I always do my own washing, and I usually help cook/clean/keep things in order :p I like doing things with the mother as she's great to talk to. She says as long as I pull my weight I don't have to pay any rent.

However, if ever she sends me to the shop or into town to buy her anything I usually just pay for it myself, much easier.
 
Just because something isn't needed, doesn't mean to say that we shouldn't do it. IMO as an adult who is earning money, if you ('you' in general) are consuming someone elses resources then then you should be paying them for it. I don't really get the concept of ripping off (sponging, taking liberties or whatever you wanna call it) your parents.



The whole concept of 'borrowing' is that you have to pay it back - otherwise it is called 'stealing' or 'accepting a gift' :) Especially in this case, where they are getting a lot of money for something they don't even need, a holiday! It's not like they needed the money to pay for essentials like shelter, clothing or food. I don't see why the parents should have to shell out their hard earned so their child can go off galavanting around someplace - especially if said child couldn't pay for it themselves. If money is that much of a problem they should be sorting out a job not swanning off on hols - or atleast agreeing to pay back the money as they have in this case.

As you say, it may well be a cultural thing. I don't profess to know much about what Indian households are like, but my rather outdated and blinkered view of many foreign countries is that there are large (age gap) families all living under one roof, rather than the UK model where most people move out in their teens or twenties.

Hehe, some families are like that, that's true. But I think that's on the decrease. You're right about the moving out bit though, if your family is in the same city, everyone I know would live at home, age regardless. (agreed, by "people i know" i mean friends who are about my age :p) No one would move out that young.

my friend in that case, is paying off the money by working etc. But my parents point of view was it that you're young once, you should go out and enjoy. This time in life won't come back, and once you have a job and family etc. you won't have the time too. Tis a great experience to go on a holiday traveling with friends etc. My parents paid for me, because they want to see me have fun. Me happy, makes them happy (no, im not presuming this. they told me as much)

As freefaller said, yes, it will be a shock once i'm in the real world etc. and that's why my parents are doing what they can to prepare me for it. Which is the reason I lived at halls last year, to get an experience of what it would be like. (next year my mom goes back to India, but i'l be continuning, so need to get used to it etc. :p this will not be fun since I can't cook, lol)
but using that as an example, my parents want be to learn how to cook, be independent etc. , but that's because i'l have to be once she leaves. If she was still around, it wouldn't be a problem.

Still, by the looks of it, it is a cultural thing, and at least from my side, tis best to leave it at that. Doubt anyones going to get convinced by anyone else :p
 
Totally a matter of culture, back home it'd be unthinkable for anyone to charge their kids rent, and I still consider it a little bit heartless. (Although even back home if someone were living with his parents and earning money they'd probably contribute to the household financially indirectly, maybe by doing some of the shopping etc. unless of course they were a total selfish *****)

On the other hand though, in Cyprus people are expected to take care of their parents when they're old and infirm, in exchange for having enjoyed free room and board up till their 20s or even 30s at L'Hôtel Mom. You can't really take care of your parents when they're old in this country as it's far more likely you'll be living hundreds of miles away from them when they reach that age, so I suppose it's kinda fair that they kick you out from a younger age or start charging you rent.

It's also largely prescribed by economics: here it's much easier to rent a place until you can afford your own, but in Cyprus people usually build their own, so the rental market is tiny. As a result, most young professionals can't afford to buy their own place on their starting salaries, so unless you score a decent flat to let you've got no choice but to live with the 'ents till you get a raise or promotion.

OTOH, because properties are so much more expensive here, most families, even high-earning upper-middle class ones with two incomes, can afford to put a smaller proportion of their salary aside as savings. Instead, they view their house itself as their "nest-egg", so when the kids move out they're keen to sell it, move into a smaller place, and use the income to retire on. Back home you'll usually pass on the house to your kids when they get married, so usually a young couple won't have a mortgage to pay and will be able to set money aside for their retirement, so they in their turn will have saved up and be able to afford to pass the house down to THEIR kids and so on. This is pretty much dictated by the fact that there's fewer of us down there so we have more room to build houses, whereas the UK is kinda crowded, so, in a way, things that we consider as deeply ingrained in our cultures are the result of historical and economic accident.
 
What's it got to do with being tight? It's just respectful and decent to pay them something - afterall they've put you through eductation, looked after you for at least 16 or so years, where's the harm in showing some commitment and adulthood? It's the more of the symbol/act of doing it that counts rather than being a scrubber living off you parents. If you pay for your own food, do your own washing, pay your share of the bills then that's fine - at least it's something. If you don't then frankly you're a spoilt brat. Some people really need to live in the real world and grow up.

Well why don't you make your kids do the washing etc. then rather than asking for money? Also I hope you aren't calling me a spoilt brat because i'm nothing of the sort, I've lived away from my parents for over 2 years and pay my way so I do know what the real world is like. I still think making your kids pay is tight, there are better ways of showing them adulthood.

Also as others have said, my parents will live with me when they are old and I will look after them and I will not ask them to pay. Now thats the decent and respectful thing to do.

Idiot, it's got nothing to do with being tight. :rolleyes:

Parents asking for money from their children is tight mate or they just don't love you very much.
 
I dont pay rent as i said but i wouldn't object if my parents asked me for it.

I only make about £160 minimum a month working and with bursaries and student loans about £300-400 in term time.
 
Some of you obviously come from priveledged households.

When I was a kid, my parents scrimped and saved for twenty odd years to feed and clothe my siblings and I. It would have been a mark of utter disrespect and meanness to expect them to continue to do so when I was earning enough to pay my own way. My first wage after I left school was £28 a week. I asked my Mam how much she wanted for my keep, she said £10 would be fine - I gave her £15 until I started earning more. When I started earning £56 a week, I gave her £20 (these sums were worth considerably more in 1982 :o).

Whilst we were growing up, my parents could afford, on average, two nights out a year, every other penny was spent making sure we had a roof over our heads, food in our bellies and clothes on our backs. Do you think it would have been fair for me to work full time and expect them to carry on doing the same whilst I spent all my money on booze, fags and cars?

If your parents are loaded and don't feel they want your money then, good luck to you but I sincerely hope that your priveledged lifestyle doesn't bite you in the butt when it comes time to fend for yourselves. Those of you who do not/will not expect money from your kids, I hope your "generosity" doesn't spoil them and make things difficult for them in the future.

I love my parents and I owe them my life, what's a few pounds when they made such a huge sacrifice for me?
 
we decided a long time ago that once i got a full time job i'd pay what my mum lost in family tax credit and child tax credit, which is only fair, as if thats what the government believes it costs to keep me than thats what i should pay :) (£200 btw). which is MILES less than i'd pay to live on my own any where near brighton (london pices F T L :()
 
we decided a long time ago that once i got a full time job i'd pay what my mum lost in family tax credit and child tax credit, which is only fair, as if thats what the government believes it costs to keep me than thats what i should pay :) (£200 btw). which is MILES less than i'd pay to live on my own any where near brighton (london pices F T L :()

That sounds like a sensible solution to me.

Just to make my position clear, in case there is any confusion.
I'm not trying to say it's wrong for people not to pay - if their parents are happy with that or for parents not to want to take money from their kids. Nor am I saying that people in full time education should necessarily pay.
What I do feel, very strongly, is that for people to expect not to pay or feel it is wrong for parents to expect some sort of contribution is ungrateful and disrespectful.
I have the most profound respect and gratitude for the sacrifices my parents made for me and the thought of not trying to repay that would never occur to me and to be quite honest, I am shocked that anyone with an ounce of morality would feel any differently.

I started paying as soon as I started working and even now, 25 years after I left my parents home, I still help them whenever I can as do my two brothers - and will do so as long as they're still with us (hopefully for many years to come). To say you shouldn't have to pay whilst living with them because you'll probably have to look after them when they get older is a disgusting insult to everything your parents have been through to raise you.
 
That sounds like a sensible solution to me.

Just to make my position clear, in case there is any confusion.
I'm not trying to say it's wrong for people not to pay - if their parents are happy with that or for parents not to want to take money from their kids. Nor am I saying that people in full time education should necessarily pay.
What I do feel, very strongly, is that for people to expect not to pay or feel it is wrong for parents to expect some sort of contribution is ungrateful and disrespectful.
I have the most profound respect and gratitude for the sacrifices my parents made for me and the thought of not trying to repay that would never occur to me and to be quite honest, I am shocked that anyone with an ounce of morality would feel any differently.

To say you shouldn't have to pay whilst living with them because you'll probably have to look after them when they get older is a disgusting insult to everything your parents have been through to raise you.

my sentiments exactly mate.
 
when earning, you should pay.

25% of wage to parents/guardians, 25% put in savings, rest is for you to do as you wish.
 
Parents asking for money from their children is tight mate or they just don't love you very much.

i dont see it as tight, i see it as teaching the kid that it is time to learn some financial responsibility.
 
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