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For the love of god...can we PLEASE...PLEAAAAAASE....have a multiplayer campaign mode, instead of just battle mode in this one??????????

Come on ! The total war series has been begging for a multiplayer campaign ever since Shogun !

Would need to have a good save\resume feature though ;) and some way to avoid each turn taking forever.
 
i thought M2:TW kingdoms introduced that? i may be wrong ofc

I didnt think it allowed you to multiplayer the main campaign, I may be wrong though as I havent bought the expansion.

Would need to have a good save\resume feature though ;) and some way to avoid each turn taking forever.

My strategy fiend friends and I wouldnt mind how long it takes, one of our old HOMM LAN games took 10 months to complete, we love multiplayer strategies which are deep and take months to play through. Would just be nice to have the option to multiplayer the main campaign in a Total War game, would be like playing the old boardgame Advanced Third Reich...lots of interplayer diplomacy and treaties being formed and broken. Truly grand strategy.
 
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My strategy fiend friends and I wouldnt mind how long it takes, one of our old HOMM LAN games took 10 months to complete, we love multiplayer strategies which are deep and take months to play through. Would just be nice to have the option to multiplayer the main campaign in a Total War game, would be like playing the old boardgame Advanced Third Reich...lots of interplayer diplomacy and treaties being formed and broken. Truly grand strategy.

Surely very few players are that dedicated. Even I'm not anymore..
 
Probably true...its really just we are all getting old now, have family commitments etc, so we only get to LAN together for 3 or 4 hours a week, and we're getting too slow to keep up on frantic online shooters with the hyperspeed gamers :) , so we enjoy the slow paced thinking games more.

The current game of HOMM 5 we are multiplayering has been going on for 3 months so far, bloody good fun though. Would just love the ability to multiplayer the main campaign of Total war, one of us as the English, one as the Spanish, one as the Russians and one as one of the really minor nations (that one would be me, I love to play the smaller nations, loved MTW2 as the Danish, Sicilians and Knights Templar)

Really it cant do any harm to include the option in the game, certainly wouldnt lose any customers, and who knows, might gain some.
 
The current game of HOMM 5 we are multiplayering has been going on for 3 months so far, bloody good fun though. Would just love the ability to multiplayer the main campaign of Total war, one of us as the English, one as the Spanish, one as the Russians and one as one of the really minor nations (that one would be me, I love to play the smaller nations, loved MTW2 as the Danish, Sicilians and Knights Templar)

I preferred HOMM2 myself. ;) I've still yet to win a skirmish game on the easiest difficulty level :o
 
I preferred HOMM2 myself. ;) I've still yet to win a skirmish game on the easiest difficulty level :o


Yeah, HOMM3 was our favourite (HOMM4 being the VERY red headed stepchild of the series of course), we really are only on HOMM5 at the moment because we ran out of decent multiplayer maps for HOMM2 and 3 :)
 
its going to be No Swearing! unless they start giving us what we want more troops!

kingdoms for me was a pain in the ass i dont really count anything under 5000 a battle its more of a skirmish total war tho they seem always to ignore any questions on this.

mainly because thier too dumb to program ai and pathfinding for so many men.

althought if the ai is as good as they say and they give us around 7k troops on each side then it will be the game of 2008 my friends :)

oh and i hope to god its going to suck every bit of juice out of a quad core but again probably going to be like 30% each core and they will whine about how hard is it.
 
For the love of god...can we PLEASE...PLEAAAAAASE....have a multiplayer campaign mode, instead of just battle mode in this one??????????

Come on ! The total war series has been begging for a multiplayer campaign ever since Shogun !

There are Rumours and plans about making something like that from what ive read on the offical forums:)
 
oh yes, this looks awesome! Total War really redefined rts for me. i love the sense of having to achieve something as opposed to the AoE style of play. Naval battles sound good as this part of Total War always annoyed me. In fact, it all sounds awesome, can't wait!

a little off-topic, does anybody know if Medieval Total War can be downloaded Steam/Direct2drive i.e. legally or will it be a trip to the shop?
 
its going to be No Swearing! unless they start giving us what we want more troops!

kingdoms for me was a pain in the ass i dont really count anything under 5000 a battle its more of a skirmish total war tho they seem always to ignore any questions on this.

mainly because thier too dumb to program ai and pathfinding for so many men.

althought if the ai is as good as they say and they give us around 7k troops on each side then it will be the game of 2008 my friends :)

oh and i hope to god its going to suck every bit of juice out of a quad core but again probably going to be like 30% each core and they will whine about how hard is it.

how would more troops help the path finding? its more calc's for the CPU to use. on the current engine its either one or the other as M2 was built on RTW's engine with graphical optimisations and a few other tweaks. and RTW's engine is almost 5 years old. (no dual cores)

ETW should be a total revision going by past games, however you can bet there will be some shocking bugs as QA is almost none existant and i wouldnt rely on them to patch it, due to M2 desperately needing some and they have "no plans to patch". they will concentrate on the next shiney object on the horizon.

treat it like stalker. keep it in your wish basket until it has been patched a few times then buy. you will have some good mods and a much more enjoyable playing experience in vanilla


as for a MP campaign. it wont happen. you may get a hotseat campaign akin to Kingdoms but that will be it imo. the time problems with a normal campaign split over several users is horrendous. think of it as 20 mins on the campaign map and then upwards of 1 our + for that persons battles. more so if one person is fighting another and you may have to wait till you are both online. multiply that by say...21 (usual number of factions) and then by probably about 350 turns.
it would take years, not to mention some way of saving it. this is coming from a company that has virtually no experiance on online play as they have used a BETA version of gamespy for the last 4 years. and online play needs lots of patching. something they seem unable to commit to.



just so you dont have to read my opinions
you can get a hotseat campaign in Kingdoms, which is meant for several users on one pc. this can be manipulated if you pass the save file to each other (like play by mail) and you are unable to fight in battles vs another human player, only PC.
this is available in M2 original with a small file tweak.
 
as for a MP campaign. it wont happen. you may get a hotseat campaign akin to Kingdoms but that will be it imo. the time problems with a normal campaign split over several users is horrendous. think of it as 20 mins on the campaign map and then upwards of 1 our + for that persons battles. more so if one person is fighting another and you may have to wait till you are both online. multiply that by say...21 (usual number of factions) and then by probably about 350 turns.
it would take years, not to mention some way of saving it. this is coming from a company that has virtually no experiance on online play as they have used a BETA version of gamespy for the last 4 years. and online play needs lots of patching. something they seem unable to commit to.


Our LAN group would be perfectly happy with that length of game, and as I say, it cannot do any harm to put in a LAN MP campaign mode. No harm at all, it has no negatives and only positives. Those who would play it in that way can do, those who wouldnt, wouldnt.
 
you would like to be on a lan for several months? your life i guess, however you would still be sitting around while everyone took their turns. there are 51 factions in empires. add in any other battles they need to do etc and you will have aged by the time you got 100 turns in.
im part of a clan and play online, but a MP camp is just too much. they should fix what they already have and improve that. not try and develop something built on something which they havent even attempted properly in the first place.

its all personal opinion i guess. most i think would hardly miss it if it wasnt included however. most people dont have lan groups either. it would be a hell of a lot of work for a minuscule section of the audience.
 
Sure why not, we like decent deep strategy games, like I said in previous posts, its not unusual for our current strategy LAN games to last 9, 10 months. As for 51 factions, who said anything about 51 human players, there is only 4 of us on our LAN sessions at my house, so it would be 4 players, not 51. (EDIT : oops, having read a bit more, I see that only 10 of the 51 factions are playable anyway, so I mean 10, not 51 :) )

I really dont see that LAN would be a helluva lot of work at all, its really only one step further from hotseat campaigns, in fact virtually all of the required coding for a LAN campaign is present in the coding for a hotseat campaign anyway. As you say though, its personal opinion, you wouldnt miss it, but for people like us , we miss the old strategy games of yesteryear (which virtually all came with at least hotseat and/or LAN modes as standard..such as in games like Steel Panthers, somewhere along the years though LAN in strategy games has been pushed aside, except for the truly great strategy games like HOMM and AOW:Shadowmagic), and I see no negatives to having an extra play mode, but I certainly do see a positive to it.
 
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Ah excellent, just scoured the forum because of what Zip said at the end of page 1 of this thread, and it appears that LAN multiplayer campaign is something they are looking at at the moment, now thats perked my interest even more :)
 
This sounds like a remake of imperical crusade or what ever it was called. Cant remeber now, wasn't very good tbh and it did a lot of what you just said. But i have full faith total war will do 100% better job of it.
 
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