Pretty sweet deal then. Beats praying 5 times a day.
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Pretty sweet deal then. Beats praying 5 times a day.
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free off any sin. they are new people, with no sin. the most pure of all mankind. there are no sins carried on to them, and they have no sins.
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haha....just remember IMO
What about people born blind and deaf who cannot read or hear about needing to have faith in God and live sinlessly?
Why can't God just cut the crap and organise some more divine interventions or something? He's making life boring, forcing us to rely on faith and all that.
When I'm at the pearly gates I think I'll just blag it or something. All this ambiguity makes me think I could probably convince God my sins were by accident.
Why can't God just cut the crap and organise some more divine interventions or something? He's making life boring, forcing us to rely on faith and all that.
When I'm at the pearly gates I think I'll just blag it or something. All this ambiguity makes me think I could probably convince God my sins were by accident.
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then i think it should be the people that care for them to explain to them what islam is and what to do to get to heaven
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no it wouldn't be the deaf dumb blind persons fault
they are physically incapable, it would be the carers fault of not being open minded to let the person make personal decisions for themselves
BUT REmEMBER, i am not a scholar, no am i a imam, nor do i understand the whole of islam. what i am saying is mostly IMO
they are physically incapable, it would be the carers fault of not being open minded to let the person make personal decisions for themselves
BUT REmEMBER, i am not a scholar, no am i a imam, nor do i understand the whole of islam. what i am saying is mostly IMO
Using the island example - how can/could you have faith in something that you don't know exists?!
My life is not a gift from Allah. I was born from my mother not by some 'gift' of a (to me) random guy.
I must admit personally I love the small clip from red dwarf stating:
'Archaeologists have discovered a new page from bible which if dated correct would fit at the beginning of the book and read - to my dearest candy, all characters protrated in this book are completely ficticious .....'
Ah that made me laugh.
Your idea of sin is not really supported by the Bibles(*) of Judaism, Christianity or Islam. Killing is only a sin if it isn't approved of by the religion. For some examples of killing not just being sinless but mandatory, read Leviticus. As for causing problems...does anyone need examples of how all three Abrahamic religions have done that on an appalling scale?
* For anyone who doesn't know: 'bible' simply means 'book' (from the transliterated Greek biblios). Capitalising it implies that it is the book, so it applies equally well to the Torah and the Koran - they are the books for Judaism and Islam.
Firstly, that is an article of faith. It is not proven and is impossible to prove. You have faith that the Koran has never been altered because it says so, which is not proof of anything.
Secondly, any large body of text is open to numerous interpretations even if it is unaltered, so Islam can change (and has changed) even if the Koran hasn't, and Islam can be (and is) implemented in different ways in different places and at different times.
He lived 600 years after Jesus, when both Judaism and Christianity had been well established and widespread for a long time. Why would he not know those stories?
That doesn't describe the reality of the Abrahamic religions very well.
That requires understanding what really happens, as opposed to an idealised version of it.
Islam means submission, obedience. It might have been about peace if it was powerless and followed only by gentle people, but it isn't. The same goes for Christianity, a religion that would have a much stronger claim to be about peace if it was also powerless and followed only by gentle people. The teachings of Jesus are almost entirely peace and love to an extreme degree, but does Christianity actually reflect that?
Religion is all very well until people get involved in it.
Are you sure that was when the marriage was consummated in the sense of sex?
In my admittedly cursory reading of translations, all I've seen is that betrothal occured when she was 6 and marriage when she was 9. That can throw many people today, because betrothal is a custom that has fallen into disuse and I've read stuff from people who have obviously read "betrothal" as "marriage" and "marriage" as "sex".
There is also the issue of the word "consummate", which does not mean "have sex". It means "complete".
Betrothal is a binding promise of marriage in the future. It is essentially marriage with a delayed completion. The actual marriage ceremony is therefore a consummation (completion) of the marriage.
This is before the issue of translation - e.g. what does the Arabic word translated as "consummation" actually mean?
That's a bizarre thing to say as there's nothing on my website apart from my phones ring tone.
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As Salaam Alaikum,
I was wondering if anybody could suggest any good english translations of Quran. I currently own a Yusuf Ali one but i find the english to be quite old fashioned if you know what i mean. I also own The Qur'an: A Modern English Version (Paperback)
by Majid Fakhry
I was wondering if anybody could suggest any good english translations of Quran. I currently own a Yusuf Ali one but i find the english to be quite old fashioned if you know what i mean. I also own The Qur'an: A Modern English Version (Paperback)
by Majid Fakhry
All the OP wanted was a version of the Qu'ran to read out of curiosity, that's it!
You don't know that. Unless your 1400 years old.
In western society we call that plagiarism.
I sure hope English is not your first language, because that ain't the Queen's English.
Pffft. Thats like saying: 'Invading Iraq will bring peace to everyone', I'm sorry I ain't buying.
You don't know that. Unless your 1400 years old.
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In western society we call that plagiarism.
abz said:
I sure hope English is not your first language, because that ain't the Queen's English.
abz said:
Pffft. Thats like saying: 'Invading Iraq will bring peace to everyone', I'm sorry I ain't buying.
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1.Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2.For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Mattew 7:1-2
I really like that
1. If a religion allows the non-possibility of it's God(s) to exist then it is rendered powerless.
2. If a religion requires it's followers to believe that it's God is the source of everything because of point 1. In essence questioning God(s) existance is not allowed.
3. How can a follower of a religion provide an objective view in an argument unless they break point 1 (and 2) ?
2. If a religion requires it's followers to believe that it's God is the source of everything because of point 1. In essence questioning God(s) existance is not allowed.
3. How can a follower of a religion provide an objective view in an argument unless they break point 1 (and 2) ?
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not if your a catholic...or believe in catholocism...
but serioualy, can anyone tell me if the books, such as Judges, etc make it into the Torah, and the Quran?
i was reading through last night and managed to find some massive inconsistencies in gods talk and behaviour in the space of 10 pages! its pure maddness.